Why is China not centuries ahead of the world in technology?

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Rh negative blood is so rare in China it is called Panda Blood because pandas are rare also. This negative blood and blue eyes do deserve a genetic engineering thread. Maybe.
I'm AB negative so doubly rare. I wouldn't even be able to get a job in Japan. Part of the job application is revealing your blood type and they automatically reject AB's. Too independent. Doesn't play well with others. :)
 
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Something else from China. A 2.5 minute video about a cave discovered in China that is astoundingly precise, large, and beautiful. All hand-carved by primitives, of course. Even the 45 degree angled ceilings carved out of stone, entire hand-chiseled walls. If you listen carefully toward the very end they say it's dated before China was an empire so all these disconnected "tribes" got together and decided to carve kilometers worth of massive grottos in stone.....just for the chuckles.
 

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What if the tartarians and the tocharians are the same people, and those mummies are not as old as they are supposed to be?
What if the Taratarians were why the great wall of "china" was built? The Tartars built it to keep a Chinese invasion out. Why do Mongolians look like a mix ofChinese and Russian? I think there's a lot China is hiding and as they say history is written by the victors.
 

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What if the Taratarians were why the great wall of "china" was built? The Tartars built it to keep a Chinese invasion out. Why do Mongolians look like a mix ofChinese and Russian? I think there's a lot China is hiding and as they say history is written by the victors.

The hazaras of Afghanistan are said to be mongolian in origin. If you take a close look, you will notice they are very different from the chinese.

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I don't really know anything about genetics so what does it mean?
 

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Perhaps because they closed themselves off from the Japethic influence per Custances’s theory. It’s long but I was surprised the first time I read it.

Most of us have been brought up to believe that we, Indo-Europeans, are the most inventive people in the world. It is exceedingly difficult to escape from this culturally conditioned prejudice and take a fresh objective look at the origins of our technological achievements. One may take almost any essential element of our highly complex civilization � aircraft, paper, weaving, metallurgy, propulsion of various kinds, painting,
explosives, medical techniques, mechanical principles, food, the use of electricity, virtually anything technological in nature � and an examination of the history of its development leads us surely and certainly back to a Hamitic people and exceedingly rarely to Japheth or Shem. The basic inventions which have been contributed by Shem or Japheth can, it seems, be numbered on the fingers of one hand. This seems so contrary to popular opinion, yet it is a thesis which can be supported � and has been documented � from close to 1000 authoritative sources. Almost every new book dealing with the history of science (frequently confused with technology) adds its own confirmatory evidence in support of this thesis.
Noah (Vol.1) - Pt.I, CH.3
 

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Who knows what China's true history is or what it contains?
The story is that she evolved from Prediluvian civilization of Mu, whenever that was.
Our timeline is messed up, and our concepts of what time truly is are in flux by the day.
After Mu came Lemuria I believe, which lasted several hundreds of thousands of years. Then came the Khmer empire in Siam.
Whatever the truth is, we should root for the umbrella protesters who are embodying free will and non-hive mind totalitarianism.
They are part of the future, one that will see and end to the old lies of the world. Everything changes in the cosmos, that the one fundamental rule.

JWW
 

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Personally, I think the Chinese and related are some of the most heavily brainwashed because they are the most actively controlled- China geopolitcal/economic reasons AND potentially sinister tptb reasons.

I want to give beings the benefit of a doubt, we spend hours researching the bogus-itutdes of history- surely the East has gotten as bad a rap. Along the same lines as the printing press in China didn't flip the world on its head bc of the extreme difference in language, I think the confusion and "distantness" the West and the East feel between each other is as artificial as the years of the dark ages and our difference in languages doesn't help the situation.

We're constantly researching and discussing this potential worldwide civilization of the past. In general, I feel like a hive-minded self sacrificing team player type human would be the type to achieve such a civilization. Personally, with what I've read of Eastern religion/philosphy in general, I can see how these "ancient" Eastern ways of living/religions might support such a type of human. Narrative-driven reasons why feudal lords and leaders in general back then even followed such codes are likely as polluted as the histories of the West.

Reading through the advancements China made and with their potential proximity to this Tartaria-esque civ and what remains, I'm more inclined to believe they are simply another case of powerful humans squashed by tptb via several methods and perhaps squashed more heavily than others throughout the world because of said convenient location (geographically and chronologically)
 

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This is the first time I hear about this Panda Blood thing. I had totally different in mind, and now have to look into additional things. I'm like torn in 10 different directions, and don't have time for any at the moment, lol.
Perhaps the history of Alchemy will reveal some interesting hints about ancient genetic engineering. It supposedly goes back a ways in China. I read a book on the history of alchemy in general and all I remember about it is Chinese alchemists when they made a recipe tested it on dogs. If the dog died the master took enough to kill himself since he had failed as did his apprentices. Misplaced loyalty is a laugh at times. I think when wars and conflicts, death and misery died down during times when Shamans were very sought after, so did the potency of Alchemy.
 

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According to official sources, China has been hundreds of years ahead of the rest of the world in just about every field of civilization building-medicine, weapons of warfare, technological inventions, manufacturing processes, structural engineering, and so on. So how is it that China hasn't already colonized/terraformed Mars or invented flying cars? Why did they fight (and lose) the communists takeover using pitchforks?

First use of poison gas in warfare was by the Germans in 1915 during WWI. Earliest mention of chemical warfare was in Bronze age Greece when Hercules poisoned arrows with Hydra venom. Wiki tells you things like that then they blithely go on to contradict themselves by saying that the Mahabarata advised poisoning an enemy's food and water in 400 B.C. India even has a book entitled Arthashastra which gives you recipes for chemical weapons. In second century B.C., china used to pump toxic smoke from poisonous burning plants into tunnels made by besieging armies. So 2500 years before the official use of chemical weapons, China was fumigating enemy tunnels with chemical weapons.

The amazing Chinese invented cast iron in the 6th century B.C. wiki says European Iron Age began 8th century B.C., Brittanica says 12th century B.C., Childress says 1300 A.D. Basically, we have no idea who or when cast iron was invented however, the Chinese, apparently late to start manufacturing cast iron if wiki and Childress are to be believed, were the first to manufacture steel in the 4th century B.C.-over 2k years before Westerners got around to it. One wonders why the Westerners, who supposedly understood the use of cast iron 800 years before Christ, waited until the 18th century A.D. to start making steel. The Chinese wasted no time in figuring it out.

Movable type is another of China's firsts. Over 400 years ahead of Guttenberg (15th century). Bi Sheng hand-carved thousands of Chinese characters (backwards) in clay then fire-hardened them into blocks as pictured below. They have to be backwards because when you put the papyrus or parchment over the inked blocks they will be facing the correct direction when printed. I can sort of understand why the Chinese printing press didn't stand the world on its ear like the Guttenberg press as the Chinese language has over 5k characters and makes for an unwieldy and slow-going process. Still, the IDEA of printing should not have taken the rest of the world another 400 years to duplicate.


Paper, another Chinese invention, was invented in 100 B.C. replacing parchment and papyrus as a quicker and less expensive alternative. It took another 1000 years for this alternative to become popular because the rest of the world preferred slower and more expensive methods. **sarcasm**

The mechanical clock was invented by a Chinese Buddhist, Yi Xing, in 725 A.D. It was not the gears and pins model we associate with clocks today-that version was invented by another Chinaman, Su Song, a few hundred years later-but originally was more like a waterwheel with steadily dripping water causing it to make one complete turn every 24 hours. I'm not a mathematician like Yi Xing but an ICU nurse that often has to calculate drip factors for bags of intravenous fluids. Even with known drip rates of specific diameter tubing, a calculator, and rate conversion formulas (cheat sheets), it still takes a bit of fiddling with IV pumps to calculate how many drips per minute equals the ordered rate of so many cc's/hour. Yi Xing must've had a lot of time on his hands to figure out how many drops of water would turn a wheel one revolution per 24 hours.

It's not surprising to learn that Chinese invented tea [drinking] almost 3000 years ago and the British decided they liked the beverage too about 4000 years later. It's an acquired taste, I guess. It seems a little odd to me that it was the British who introduced tea to India considering India's' geographical proximity to China. The East India company apparently instigated the opium wars to weaken China who was demanding an equal weight in silver to pay for the tea. What is surprising to learn is that the Chinese also invented alcohol about 2000 years ago. And because you need something special to put these special drinks in they also invented porcelain. They managed to keep that secret from the West until the 17th century.
Gunpowder was a Chinese invention that changed the world and our place in it. Accidentally discovered to be loud, bright, and dangerous which is not at all what you want when you're looking for a potion for immortality, it was originally used for fireworks to amuse and impress the masses. The English, who have no sense of humor, (J/K) incorporated it into a weapon of war. It was only natural that after inventing gunpowder the Chinese should also invent rockets. Although they were invented in 228 B.C. they were called "fire arrows" which is also what Sun Tsu recommended using back in 565 B.C., 300 years before rockets were officially invented. And since you need a way to fire up all that gunpowder and set your rockets aflight, they also invented matches.
Silk was, of course, invented by the Chinese who saw that sticky wad of insect goo and thought, "Hey, I bet we could make some clothes out of that!" the wife of the Yellow Emperor (who invented Chinese medicine) is credited with making alcohol and looms and figuring out how to turn mulberry worm cocoons into lovely, durable, and thermodynamically stable textiles. What a gal! AKA "The Goddess" It takes about 80 hours for a skilled weaver to hand spin 1 kilogram of silk. To produce 1 kg of silk, 104 kg of mulberry leaves must be eaten by 3000 silkworms. It takes about 5000 silkworms to make a pure silk kimono. Westerners had to pay the weight of the silk in an equal amount of gold so, of course, monks were sent in to steal some silkworms.


Having such a useful material led to more handy inventions like the umbrella in 3630 B.C. I'm sure a few of those umbrellas got away from people on windy days so they just went ahead and invented the kite in 3000 B.C.


Chinese invented the compass between the first and second century A.D. By 1100 A.D. the West also had them. I wonder how all those sea-faring cultures were able to get from one shore to another for so long without this handy device.
One of the truly remarkable Chinese inventions was an earthquake detection device capable of detecting seismographic activity over 500 miles away and to determine from which direction it was coming. Its inventor, Zhang Cheng was the Tesla of his time; an astronomer, mathematician, engineer, geographer, and inventor.


Being ever so clever and ahead of the rest of the world in every aspect of technology, the Chinese invented wheelbarrows, seed drills (3500 years ago), fishing rods, the abacus, toothbrushes (but not until 1498-eww), paper money (9th century A.D.), acupuncture (>2000k years ago). They were the first to start planting in rows (6th century B.C.) instead of doing like the the rest of the world and just tossing seed randomly about and hoping for the best for the next 2200 years!

With all this going for them, one wonders at the sudden technological slowing of the Chinese of late. Why are they not terraforming and colonizing the planets? They seem to be ahead of the West in almost all technological developments-writing, iron and steel manufacturing, gunpowder, medicine, canal building, mechanical clocks, movable type for printing books, seismographs (and earthquake resistant houses), and all the other marvels of a civilized and technologically advanced society. How is it they do not rule the world?

Could it be they inherited this knowledge and these technologies from an earlier race?

WW summary: For a people who probably didn't exist during the times of these inventions it seems unlikely that they are the actual inventors. This information ties into the Tarim mummies found along the western (Tartary) border of China during an archaeological excavation in the late 1980's. Their many pyramids also seem to be on the western side. It also seems unlikely they had so many multiple PhD-type individuals available to build/invent canals and every other technological and cultural advancement. Where did all these bright people learn their multi-disciplinary talents? Even the women seem to figure prominently in so many of the Chinese inventions despite their footbound state. There are also Chinese legends of Caucasoid giants that originally ruled China and taught them many things. Recent discoveries of "giant" graves seem to confirm the legends. Although these giants were only about 6.2, they would have been considered giants to the native population. Why is it important that the Chinese be seen as ancient or as advanced inventors? Is it because they inherited (by means unknown) the technology of their near neighbors the Tartars (whose name and memory we have all but erased from history)?

Very nice details, since you are looking at china maybe you saw this. My question, what are they really doing in this picture and
has any other country tried something similar?


About Datong


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Innovation in ancient city protection
( chinadaily.com.cn )
update: 2011-11-22




Innovation in ancient city protection
The ancient city wall

Innovation in ancient city protection

An inspection team from the State Administration of Cultural Heritage has recognized the efforts the Datong government has made with historical city protection.
The Datong government carried out the project in 2008, and now has achieved an initial success.
According to Geng Yanbo, the city’s mayor, Datong possesses profound cultural deposits as well as valuable relics. To better preserve them, the local government has made innovations and formed a unique pattern of protection.
He said the project was implemented with a more advanced concept of keeping the original look of the ancient city rather than having it reconstructed. The government has stopped all the development projects within the scope of protection, about 4.8 square kilometers, and has tried to maintain the integrity of the relics by using the same materials and crafts in restoration.
However, some people worry such protection may hinder economic development. The mayor said the people can put a rest to those worries because “we have already figured out a way to expand the economy.”
The government has exploited a new city zone for development. A river separates it from the old inner cities.
“Protection and development do not interfere with each other at two spaces. It is a win-win resolution,” he continued. “One is traditional, and the other is modern. The sharp contrast has also added a special charm to the city.”
Moreover, the project will upgrade the city’s tourism industry when it is completed, the mayor noted.

A number of questions are answered if, as I think, the current people on earth started in spiritual form. This solves the transition artifices. There would be none we would reorganize.
 

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I think this belongs here:
TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – “World Civilization Research Association” (世界文明研究促進會) scholars are claiming that Western civilization originates from China and all European languages are merely Mandarin dialects, the Liberty Times reports.
The World Civilization Research Association group of scholars are professors from a number of Chinese academic institutions. Association member Zhu Xuanshi (諸玄識) further claimed that Western civilization is a “sub-civilization” of Chinese culture.
He said Europeans “felt ashamed” due to the “fact” there was no history in Europe before the 15th century, compared to China. In an attempt to paper over this historical humiliation, the Europeans “fabricated” stories about ancient Egyptian, Greek, and Roman civilizations – all based on Chinese history.

-- English is actually Chinese, scholars claim | Taiwan News

Interesting theory.
 

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