American Arcadia: Arcadia-city, Starnatana, Taina...

This article was originally published on SH 1.0 Forum on 7/13/20.

Isn't it interesting that instead of Tartaria we now have Tataria? When did we lose that "r" and why? Well, this article is not about Tartaria. I wanted to bring American Arcadia up for a discussion. Well, they call it Acadia these days. What happened to the same letter "r" and why was it omitted? I did not even know the place existed, but the very same 1587 Urbano Monte map made me look a few things up.

1587 - arcadia-11.jpg


Naturally I googled a few things:

Then I was like, why am I looking for Arcadia in the United States, when the map clearly states that it was Canada?
  • Arcadia Canada - and there it was, but we are supposed to call this area Acadia.
    • And this name change did not happen yesterday. How about 1700s?
    • We can attribute the loss of "r" to Acadia being a French word, but I'm not buying it. As you can see in the image below, at some point, they had no issues calling it by its proper name.

And right next to the above there was this:
  • Acadia was a colony of New France in northeastern North America which included parts of eastern Quebec, the Maritime provinces, and Maine to the Kennebec River. During much of the 17th and early 18th centuries, Norridgewock on the Kennebec River and Castine at the end of the Penobscot River were the southernmost settlements of Acadia. The French government specified land bordering the Atlantic coast, roughly between the 40th and 46th parallels. It was eventually divided into British colonies. The population of Acadia included the various indigenous First Nations that comprised the Wabanaki Confederacy, the Acadian people and some small Scottish settlements.

I will attribute this to my ignorance, but I had no idea that we had an Acadian Peninsular right there in Nova Scotia.
  • The Acadian Peninsula is situated in the northeastern corner of New Brunswick, Canada, encompassing portions of Gloucester and Northumberland Counties. It derives its name from the large Acadian population located there.

I am very ignorant, so I did not know that we had Acadians in Canada. I know that I have to look pretty dumb right now, but I'm being honest, I had no clue.
  • The Acadians are the descendants of the French who settled in Acadia during the 17th and 18th centuries, many of whom are also descended from the Indigenous peoples of the region.
- What happened to them? -
The Expulsion of the Acadians, also known as the Great Upheaval, the Great Expulsion, the Great Deportation and Le Grand Dérangement, was the forced removal by the British of the Acadian people from the present-day Canadian Maritime provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and northern Maine - parts of an area also known as Acadia. The Expulsion (1755–1764) occurred during the French and Indian War (the North American theatre of the Seven Years' War) and was part of the British military campaign against New France. The British first deported Acadians to the Thirteen Colonies, and after 1758, transported additional Acadians to Britain and France. In all, of the 14,100 Acadians in the region, approximately 11,500 Acadians were deported. A census of 1764 indicates that 2,600 Acadians remained in the colony having eluded capture.
So, Acadians - Arcadians got deported and separated in 1750's... why would would the PTB want something like that? There is an explanation in here, but it's their explanation, and I have my doubts about its authenticity.

Deportation of the Acadians

And there was one more thing I had to add to my ignorance baggage. That would be:
  • Acadia National Park - Acadia National Park is an American national park located in the state of Maine, southwest of Bar Harbor. The park preserves about half of Mount Desert Island, many adjacent smaller islands, and part of the Schoodic Peninsula on the coast of Maine. Acadia was initially designated Sieur de Monts National Monument by proclamation of President Woodrow Wilson in 1916. Sieur de Monts was renamed and redesignated Lafayette National Park by Congress in 1919—the first national park in the United States east of the Mississippi River and the only one in the Northeastern United States. The park was renamed Acadia National Park in 1929. More than 3.4 million people visited the park in 2019.
As far as the location of this National Park goes... there is no surprise there. And... we need to remember that there is no digging at them National Parks, right?

Acadia national park.jpg

It is probably safe to say that this entire area has strong ties with a certain Acadia-Arcadia.

Acadia national park2.jpg

We know that older maps do not look exactly like our contemporary ones. There could be many reasons for that, and most of those reasons were covered within multiple articles. Well, let's see a couple of such older maps.
  • We need to remember, that according to this, Acadia was a colony of New France.
  • Acadia was established in 1604.
1566-67 Map
1567 - larcadia-22.jpg


1587 Map
1587 - arcadia-22.jpg


I did not look beyond these two maps, for I'm going on a little trip tomorrow and have no time to spare. At the same time we have at least two maps dated by the PTB:
Issue #1: So the Acadia Colony was established in 1604, but at least 40 years prior, and at the approximately same location we have this Canadian Province of L'Arcadia?
  • Is this a coincidence? May be it is...
Issue #2: We have two cartographers (or whoever those individuals were) drawing maps of the same area 30 years apart. Both include the same cities within their respective Arcadia's.
  • Starnatan​
  • Taina​
    • Is this a coincidence? May be it is...
Starnatan and Taina
I would love to look for these cities, but just like I said, I'm rather pressed on time here. My preliminary search did not produce anything dated with 16th, or 17th centuries. At the same time I stumbled upon this:

If you have some spare time, and are interested in this topic... please devote some of your time and see if you can find any older references to these cities.

Main Arcadia
Why they have Arcadia there before a colony bearing a similar name was even established, makes it suspicious. At the same time... I am not sure why we are dealing with anything named "Arcadia" located in North America in first place. What is the original Arcadia? Besides being one of the regional units of Greece, Arcadia is:
  • Arcadia refers to a vision of pastoralism and harmony with nature. The term is derived from the Greek province of the same name which dates to antiquity; the province's mountainous topography and sparse population of pastoralists later caused the word Arcadia to develop into a poetic byword for an idyllic vision of unspoiled wilderness. Arcadia is a poetic shaped space associated with bountiful natural splendor and harmony.[1] The 'Garden' is often inhabited by shepherds. The concept also figures in Renaissance mythology. Although commonly thought of as being in line with Utopian ideals, Arcadia differs from that tradition in that it is more often specifically regarded as unattainable. Furthermore, it is seen as a lost, Edenic form of life, contrasting to the progressive nature of Utopian desires.
  • The inhabitants were often regarded as having continued to live after the manner of the Golden Age, without the pride and avarice that corrupted other regions.
Thomas Cole
Thomas Cole was an English-born American painter known for his landscape and history paintings. One of the major 19th-century American painters, he is regarded as the founder of the Hudson River School, an American art movement that flourished in the mid-19th century. Cole's work is known for its romantic portrayal of the American wilderness.


Feb 1, 1801 – Feb 11, 1848

A while ago I started an article about this guy:
I think this Mr. Cole knew about our American Arcadia more than we will ever find out. Check this out.
Dream of Arcadia


Ambrose Andrews
Ambrose Andrews was born in the year 1801, in West Stockbridge Township at Massachusetts. The initial years of his life were said to be shrouded in mystery. Not much is known of his childhood days. It was not until Ambrose Andrews reached the age of 23 years that he started pursuing his interest in painting.
Ambrose Andrews was born in West Stockbridge, MA in 1805. He was a painter of landscapes, portraits and miniatures. He studied at the National Academy of Design, NYC in 1824.
He painted landscapes in the popular style of the Hudson River School.


Arcadian Landscape
with Worshippers of Pan


PHD's will probably say that this is some utopian Arcadia, but I have my doubts about that.

Hudson River School
The Hudson River School was a mid-19th century American art movement embodied by a group of landscape painters whose aesthetic vision was influenced by Romanticism. The paintings typically depict the Hudson River Valley and the surrounding area, including the Catskill, Adirondack, and White Mountains. Works by the second generation of artists associated with the school expanded to include other locales in New England, the Maritimes, the American West, and South America.
KD: With Cole being the founder of this school, who knows what knowledge was shared there?

Who dropped a bomb on Arcadia, and when?


KD: I figured this American "Arcadia" could be an interesting topic to look into. If you have anything to add, please share. I think American Arcadia could be related to the known America before it was re-discovered in 1492.

Could it be that ruins of the American Arcadia-city are still somewhere out there buried under some National Park?

Here is some ideas around Arcadia by AISPIK in the YouTube video: American FINDING : “ 95 % of the Golden Age can be RETURNED”

The official historical science asserts that the Europeans or the main carriers of the modern civilization discovered the American continent at the very end of the 15th century, finding there primitive Indians. This discovery itself was allegedly by accident made by Columbus, who, under the flag of the Spanish crown, was looking for a sea route to India. The exploration of America by Europeans began in the opinion of historians, even later in the 16th 17th centuries.

It turns out that the Europeans discovered wild America and brought civilization to it, or rather got rid of most of the local population and moved there themselves. All this happened according to official dates in the late Middle Ages. Somehow America was discovered not by the ancient Greeks, nor by the Romans, with a fleet exceeding those three fragile flowerbeds of Columbus. Moreover, no one could get to America for the millennia of the existence of ancient civilization.

On the territory of North America, archaeologists seem to have discovered treasures of Roman coins.
Even the remains of Viking ships were found, but all this was somehow undermined by official historians. And, of course, it was not included in the history textbooks, leaving the discovery of the continent to Christopher Columbus. But all this taken together suggests only one thought. As usual, they deceive us, hiding some very important events of the real past. Let us try to understand why this history was hidden by falsifications done in the 18th century. But to understand, we must first consider that the antiquity of the Greeks and Romans really existed the Middle Ages. [ see Antiquity is the Middle Ages Book by Anatoly Fomenko (2005)]. And that informational trail of allegedly 1492 - the year of the discovery of the continent by Columbus from history textbooks is antiquity. Plus, you need to understand, that the technological level of the antiquity has nothing to do with what described by historians; in my opinion, it has already been proven by a number of researchers of the real past. My contribution/field research is among these proofs of the highest technological level of antiquity shown in the YouTube video "The Secret of Ancient Technologies Revealed".

Let's put together the information traces we have for today and try to connect them somehow. Even the official historical science has preserved an information trail about the atrocities and treachery of the conquistadors Velazquez and Cortez in relation to the local population. What was really going on there in the first half of the 16th century, if even in the official historical science the brightest trace of those events remained under the name of the La Conquista. Historians date it for 16th century, but, in my opinion, these events took place 100 years later, that is, in the so-called times of Ivan the Terrible.

The times when Golden Horde or Great Tartary or the Great Kingdom of Kings has collapsed.


My hypothesis of real events of the period of the history of the late 17th century of the time of Ivan the Terrible in the YouTube video "Princess of Tartaria, or why Ivan the Terrible was buried in Istanbul". It seems that what is happening on the American continent, not so distant by historical standards, was brought to us by this printmaking, which by some miracle came into the public domain.


All this looks like religious wars, which, by the way, took place in 16-17 centuries in Europe. And religion, as we know, is generally the geology of a part of society. That is in Europe and then in America was some geo- political clashes dividing a society.

And if we also take into account the fact that the American continent, like Europe, were part of a single world power, which disintegrated in the initial period of the times of Ivan the Terrible, then we can safely conclude that such a disintegration took place all over the world including Americas.


Or maybe even these disagreements between the strata of society, previously held within the united world power, led to its final collapse. In Europe, Catholics dealt mainly with the Huguenots. Have Catholics destroyed Huguenots in Meso America? At least that's what the author of the article alexander_vasil thinks "Black Legend or are we again stepping on the old rake?"

Here is one of the episodes of the La Conquista in the new world in these prints.


Dressed white people with firearms in their hands are destroying the village of the same white people as they are, only naked and without weapons. By the way, this destroyed American village looks like similar settlements from prints showing life in Tartary. It turns out that among the stone ancient cities, the rural settlements looked like these. By the way, the author of this article believes that the La Conquista in America is the same events of the religious wars in Europe. And the main clashes in this religious war took place between Catholics and Huguenots.

I think, alexander_vasil in something partially right. The story of Columbus and the La Conquista - are not the discovery of America nor its exploration, it is a redivision of society during the collapse of the Golden Horde or the Great Tartary or the Great Kingdom of Kingdoms, which happened long before Columbus existence, and this redivision has involved the entire territory of both Americas. The La Conquista most likely led to the complete disappearance of the white population of the New World. This population that was developed and was not the savage. It was simply a population with a different ideology.

Let's try to figure out what ideals these naked people, obviously belonging to the white race, had. Also, in parallel, we will try to understand the question of who these European Huguenots are. The officials write that they were just Protestants. But were they?
Let me remind you once again in order to understand this issue it is necessary, in my opinion, to take into account my hypothesis that all these events took place at the time of the collapse of the united world power of antiquity, which in its essence was a Varna confederation of free strata of the population and territories paying only tithes to the center. [ Varna , as mentioned in ancient Hindu texts, describes society as divided into four categories : Brahmins ( scholars and yajna priests ), Kshatriyas ( rulers and warriors ), Vaishyas ( farmers , merchants and artisans ) and Shudras ( workmen / service providers ). ] .
From the works of Marco Polo, who visited the headquarters of the king of kings shortly before the beginning of the collapse of the united world power, the following fact is clear.


Khubilai Khan or the great king of kings punished Christians and Mohammedans for internecine clashes, saying in front of them that you are fingers of one hand, and fingers cannot fight each other.

At that point in time, he was certainly right. Vedism as a single faith until the 17th century had twelve churches. That is, twelve directions of a single faith were adapted for different varnas and territories.

Nevertheless, the collapse of a single consolidated force, that is, the great kingdom of kingdoms, led to clashes between all 12 churches. For now, let's look at what happened in America and every part of the world in 16th - 18th century according to prints. Here are the terrible atrocities of conquistadors on the American continent.


They did not even spare women and children. How does this fit in with the Christian teaching. One feeds the dogs, and the other immediately pray for the slain. Killed, as you can see, again the same naked people of the white race. In the following engraving, the opposite is true.


Theodore de Brie, by the way, a Huguenot, draws to us how an Indians remove the Spaniards' thirst for gold by pouring hot metal down their throats. In the background, these Spaniards serve as a dinner.
I do not know if this is a fake to justify the La Conquista or not. But let's try to figure it out. In fact, of course, this picture may not be entirely true, but still, let's figure out what we see in it. First, the Indians are colored. Apparently black and white prints have painted later. But the faces of these Indians are still Caucasoid. These are not at all the Indians we know from cowboy westerns and the ones we are shown today. These Spaniards or simply Catholics have conducted teh Inquisition throughout the American continent. Here again they are burning the Tartar-like house, and next to them there is a woman on a tree in a royal crown.


These are not savages. These are people who simply have a view of the world different from the conquistadors. You and I know that the American continent has numerous antique structures no less than Europe. It turns out these prints show to us how people in the countryside were exterminated. They are not the inhabitants of ancient stone cities. Although, in this print, part of the stone structure is still visible.


This life of naked people in nature is the key to understanding why the conquistadors destroyed the white population of America. It seems that it was destroyed even in those American antique cities. Where these people were not savages able to make a crown just like of that Caucasian woman hanged on a tree. So, who are these naked white people? Why dressed white people are organizing a real genocide of naked white people.

It is clear enough that the discovery of America by Columbus at the end of the 15th century is the same fairy-tale, similar to the infamous Tatar-Mongol yoke fairy-tale.
Elena Topsida in her YouTube video "Antediluvian American Arcadia - America before Columbus" will help us to understand about Arkadia. Elena examined Arkadia in the region of the great lakes on the North American continent on the map of Urbano Monte in 1587. By the way, I consider this map one of the most realistic antediluvian maps. On it, similar to world maps of Mercator, the coastline corresponds to modern isobath world ocean depths of -150 meters with respect to the current level. This, according to my hypothesis, was the cut of the world ocean level before the global catastrophe, which destroyed the ancient civilization. But what interesting is that Urbano map is not made in Mercator conformal projection. The map was made in a conical projection, which made it possible to glue all its 60 sheets into a single globe. In general, cartographers will understand me. Conical mapping is virtually the top of cartography. This requires perfect knowledge of not only trigonometry, but also astronomy. And you also need to know the model of the earth's surface, which by the way was calculated only in 1940, and is named - Krasovsky ellipsoid. The dating of this map, of course, is not the same as I showed in my research, the time before 1700 was re-dated and this was done from the old chronology with the assumption of many chronological shifts, the main of which are shown by Nosovsky and Fomenko in their works on the new chronology.

Elena Topsida researching information on Arcadia continues: It was difficult to imagine that such a place could exist. But it was Urbano Monte 1587 map that gave the hint.

Indeed, historical sources convey to us information about Arcadia, which was a colony of New France in North America. But it was in the 17th-18th century. With a chronological shift of about a hundred years, this is exactly the inter-flood period of the 18th and early 19th centuries. But before the ancient flood of the late 17th century, Arcadia in the last ancient times underwent the so-called La Conquista. Look at this map from 1587 where we see ancient cities.

In addition to the city of Arcadia on the map as a province on the other side of the river San Lorenzo , there are cities with names Taina and Starnatana etc .


This country of Arcadia was subjected to La Conquista together with the regions of central and southern America . But historians do not write anything to us about the La Conquista on the North American continent of the 16th century. Allegedly, cowboys fought with the Indians much later, already in the 19th century. But the prints of naked white people, as it turned out, living in harmony with nature, convey to us the appearance and life of the Arcadians.

Elena continues: What is the original Arcadia? In addition to being one of the regional units of Greece, it is also a legendary symbol of a certain mythical country. Arcadia is a country of some ideal shepherds who are in harmony with nature. The term comes from the Greek province of the same name, which dates to antiquity.
Mountain Province of Arcadia has become a poetic symbol for the idyllic vision of unspoiled wilderness. Arcadia is a poetic imaginative space associated with abundant natural splendor and harmony - the garden inhabited by shepherds. This concept is also met in Renaissance mythology. Utopian Arcadia in the epics is considered as the unattainable, once lost Garden of Eden.

So that's why the prints depict naked, unarmed white people. That is why I hypothesise; this is where that ancient Greek Arcadia really was. Which once again testifies to the fact that ancient civilization embraced the whole world, and not just the Mediterranean, as historians assure us.

This is another confirmation of my hypothesis of our ancient past, which I will reconstruct in the Troy playlists on the AISPIC channel.

Elena continues: The people of the Arcadia often believed that they continued to live in the golden age without the pride and greed that corrupted other regions.

Roughly the same was said about the inhabitants of the mythical Hyperborea. If we consider the entire North American continent on the map Urbano Monte there is a lot of questions. After all, the map was issued only eighty years after the discovery of the territory by Columbus. I have vague doubts. Riverbeds are correctly delineated, coastlines are recognizable, not only coastal cities are marked, but also cities in the interior of the continent. Lakes, mountain ranges - all this is on the map. But what does this mean? Everything is known, learned, and mapped.

The cities of a united world power or the Golden Horde, or the Great Kingdom of Kingdoms, or Great Tartary - if you say it in Turkic dialect were located on the American and Eurasian continents.
They were, of course, located in Africa and Australia. As I already assumed, the great kingdom of kingdoms or a single world power was a confederation of varnas and territories. Moreover, all these varnas and territories were free and simply paid tribute to the center. Each staying in its own religion and ideology. The Arcadians who, as we see, inhabited North America were varna, or better to say sub-varna. The first Vedic varna of workers. And they were engaged in cattle breeding among the pristine nature, living in harmony with it. But at the same time, in Arcadia we also see large ancient cities.
All other varnas and sub-varnas of the Arcadian ancient society apparently lived there.

Painting of Thomas Cole the Arcadian or pastoral state. This painting is part of a group of five paintings representing a single cycle called the Course of Empires. Some of the paintings are very well known to alternative researchers; they often used them in their videos in order to emphasize the tragedy of the death of ancient civilization.


Elena believes that all five paintings drawn by Thomas Cole depict the area of one of the ancient cities of the mysterious Arcadia on the North American continent. Depicted in different eras. The area before the flood and before the construction of a large ancient city.

The next picture is the construction of this city, and the next picture is its dawn. Next comes the picture of the war, which is apparently organized in this city by the same conquistadors. In my opinion, these events take place at the very end of the 17th century, that is, before the flood. But these engravings show what was happening in the countryside during the same period of time.

That is, the information from the paintings and prints is almost the same. The only difference is that in cities people are still dressed, and in rural areas they are naked. The same conquistadors attack both of them. Further, the artist depicted an already deserted area, apparently after the ancient flood, which I recall, according to my hypothesis, occurred at the end of the seventeenth century, of course, translated into modern chronology.


Let me remind you, again according to my hypothesis, before the global catastrophe of the end of the 17th century, the last ancient war broke out and this war was most likely between social groups. One of such social groups or varnas or maybe even territorial entities of the great kingdom of kingdoms decided that their Vedism is better than the rest. Especially better than those who lived in harmony with nature.

The covenant of the great khan or great king of kings that all churches are the fingers of one hand was broken.


All these atrocities began before the ancient flood and continued after it, in the 18th and even in the 19th centuries. In the same way as in these prints from America, the troops of Peter the Great exterminated villages that barely survived the flood, the villages of unarmed Old Believers. This is apparently what the falsifiers concealed, claiming that America was discovered by Columbus only at the end of the 15th century and there was allegedly no developed population in it. There were just some savages sacrificing each other.

I think it's just that in this America, among its ancient white population of the time of Cortes, there were no adherents of the ideology that allowed dressed Europeans to create what is depicted in these prints. These conquistadors in clothing and with weapons apparently spread from a single center in western Europe. They spread west to America and east. And all this, as I already assumed, was happening at the time of the collapse of the united world power.

And these people were the engine of this collapse. In the east, Ivan the Terrible or, better to say, fourth tsars of the tetrarchy who built a new Moscow state on a part of the lands of the great kingdom of kingdoms stood up against the conquistadors. In general, these people with weapons and clothes are represented in official history as Spanish Catholics.

The main thing, of course, is that they are Catholic. In my opinion, Spain did not exist at that time. And in translation from Arabic, Spain means just shipbuilding. And Catholics, first of all, is Rome, which was the main factor in the destruction of a single power. But with Rome, everything is very complicated.

Further, Oleg Pavlyuchenko, the author of the AISPIK channel, speaks of the concept of government of the Kingdom of Kingdoms and the Roman Empire as a tetrarchy of 4 kings. And he also compares the conquistadors with the Pharisees who destroyed the Essenes in the vast world empire of the Kingdom of Kingdoms on all continents.

The Jewish historian Josephus records that Essenes existed in large numbers, and thousands lived throughout Roman Judaea, but they were fewer in number than the Pharisees and the Sadducees, the other two major sects at the time. The Essenes lived in various cities but congregated in communal life dedicated to voluntary poverty, daily immersion, and asceticism (their priestly class practiced celibacy).
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Is it possible to find the video at the top in English anywhere? It seems pretty relevant and interesting, but I don't speak the language! What follows seems to be a bit of a summary, but I'd love to hear the video in English or Spanish.
I can’t say too much but I have a clue that inserting an r into a word is somehow symbolic of ownership. Idea comes from seemingly well organized families related or not where one family clan has the same last name as the other w an r added.. I can’t share more without breaching confidentiality

thank you for your post about arcadia.
in the old maps arcadia is at the north of bahamas,
with access to the sea by the river san lorenzo,
and the river rio san lorenzo goes in north-north-west direction.
there is a peninsule that actually exists (square in pink color)

first,the actual river known as san lorenzo can not be the original, because goes from south-west to north east. (opposite 90 degrees to the old maps., some
the old maps map florida and bahamas, an arrow to the north points to the place, where should be the lake and arcadia, if we take as reference the peninsule that today exists.
so, that city arcadia, from your maps seems to be now underwater, and the old river san lorenzo was near the coastline.


curious note in endolinguistics:
the r means, flow divinity
the t,d means past, death. (like the buried)
by removindg the r, in the collective someone wanted/showed them deep buried, like arcadia, that is buried under the water according to the maps.

so at least ,in that part underwater now, is arcadia city.

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