KorbenDallas
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In this thread I plan on showing that our understanding of the word "Tyrant" is seriously skewed. It appears we were provided with a substituted meaning of this word. This, in turn, assisted today's pseudo-historians to distort our understanding of certain historical processes. It also provided for some major misconceptions when we think about certain historical individuals, i.e. Ivan the Terrible.
Think about how many historical individuals are known as Tyrants. Also consider how different their story could be, were my assessment of this word to be correct.
I believe the true meaning of the word Tyrant (lat. Tyrannus) is the ruler of the Kings, or the Top King, or the King of the Kings. We also need to remember that King in latin is Rex, and in russian is Czar/Tsar. And when we talk about a word Czar, some will notice a whole lot of Caesar in there. And Caesar was used as a title by the emperors of the Roman Empire.
And as I was writing all this, I realized that russian word Czar was substituted with a word Tsar. And that bears a humongous difference for our understanding of the true history, in my opinion. For Czar, could really mean Caesar.
Essentially we have Ivan the Terrible being crowned as Czar, or Caesar of (they say Russia) the Roman Empire, for only Roman Empire Emperors used the title "Caesar". And as we know, the Roman Empire put an end to Tartary. Well, Ivan the Terrible spent most of his life fighting with Tatars a.k.a Tartars, a.k.a. Tartary.
In 1613, 30 years after Ivan the Terrible's death, Russian Czars end up with the last name of Romanov. Coincidence?
Here I was actually going to give Wikipedia some props, for not using the word "Tyrant", but may be there is a reason for this word to be omitted from the current narrative. While Wikipedia does mention him being an able diplomat, a patron of arts and trade, and a few other things, Ivan the Terrible is still presented as some psychologically unstable scary individual. For example it claims that he killed his son Ivan Ivanovich, to which there is no historical proof.
1899 - A Short Outline of the History of Russia
1847 - Secret History of the Court and Government of Russia Under the Emperors Alexander and Nicholas
Historic sources present disparate accounts of Ivan's complex personality: he was described as intelligent and devout, given to rages and prone to episodic outbreaks of mental instability that increased with his age. In one such outburst, he killed his son and heir Ivan Ivanovich after also killing the latter's unborn son. This left his younger son, the pious and politically ineffectual Feodor, to inherit the throne. This later directly led to the end of the Rurikid dynasty as well as the beginning of the Time of Troubles, as Feodor was unable to produce an heir.
In my opinion the word "Tyrant" could mean a certain royal title; a rank among Kings, so to speak.
Oedipus Rex, also known by its Greek title, Oedipus Tyrannus, or Oedipus the King, is an Athenian tragedy by Sophocles that was first performed around 429 BC. In antiquity, the term “tyrant” referred to a ruler, but it did not necessarily have a negative connotation.
Repercussions: The historian Josephus (c. 37–100), while calling Nero a tyrant, was also the first to mention bias against Nero.
KD: Just what the article says. Stuff is super confusing. How many "Tyrants" do we have in our history? Do we properly understand who those rulers were? Were they heartless, ruthless psychos, or were they simply the Top Kings of this world? And of course why do we have Russian rulers being called Czars?
Apologies, but this Tyrant, and Czar topics were never supposed to be in the same thread. It just played out thay way.
Tyrannosaurus Rex [Tyrannus Rex]:
Think about how many historical individuals are known as Tyrants. Also consider how different their story could be, were my assessment of this word to be correct.
I believe the true meaning of the word Tyrant (lat. Tyrannus) is the ruler of the Kings, or the Top King, or the King of the Kings. We also need to remember that King in latin is Rex, and in russian is Czar/Tsar. And when we talk about a word Czar, some will notice a whole lot of Caesar in there. And Caesar was used as a title by the emperors of the Roman Empire.
And as I was writing all this, I realized that russian word Czar was substituted with a word Tsar. And that bears a humongous difference for our understanding of the true history, in my opinion. For Czar, could really mean Caesar.
Ngram: Czar vs Tsar
Ioannes Basilius Magnus
aka Ivan the Terrible
1530-1584
On 16 January 1547, at age sixteen, Ivan was crowned with Monomakh's Cap at the Cathedral of the Dormition. He was the first to be crowned as "Tsar of All the Russias", hence claiming the ancestry of Kievan Rus. Ioannes Basilius Magnus
aka Ivan the Terrible
1530-1584
Essentially we have Ivan the Terrible being crowned as Czar, or Caesar of (they say Russia) the Roman Empire, for only Roman Empire Emperors used the title "Caesar". And as we know, the Roman Empire put an end to Tartary. Well, Ivan the Terrible spent most of his life fighting with Tatars a.k.a Tartars, a.k.a. Tartary.
As we can see, Tartary fought back. It's also hard to say what powers Swedish, and Polish armies were really representing.
In 1613, 30 years after Ivan the Terrible's death, Russian Czars end up with the last name of Romanov. Coincidence?
Ivan the Terrible
Stars of David show up early...
Ivan IV commonly known as Ivan the Terrible or Ivan the Fearsome; a better translation into modern English would be Ivan the Formidable), was the Grand Prince of Moscow from 1533 to 1547, then Tsar of All Rus until his death in 1584.Stars of David show up early...
Here I was actually going to give Wikipedia some props, for not using the word "Tyrant", but may be there is a reason for this word to be omitted from the current narrative. While Wikipedia does mention him being an able diplomat, a patron of arts and trade, and a few other things, Ivan the Terrible is still presented as some psychologically unstable scary individual. For example it claims that he killed his son Ivan Ivanovich, to which there is no historical proof.
1899 - A Short Outline of the History of Russia
1847 - Secret History of the Court and Government of Russia Under the Emperors Alexander and Nicholas
Ivan the Tyrant
1804 - The history of the revolutions of Russia, to the accession of Catharine the First
1829 - The foreign quarterly review
1804 - The history of the revolutions of Russia, to the accession of Catharine the First
1829 - The foreign quarterly review
In my opinion the word "Tyrant" could mean a certain royal title; a rank among Kings, so to speak.
Oedipus Rex
Interesting things happen when you are in the middle of a research. Sometimes things simply fall in your lap. This one sure did.Oedipus Rex, also known by its Greek title, Oedipus Tyrannus, or Oedipus the King, is an Athenian tragedy by Sophocles that was first performed around 429 BC. In antiquity, the term “tyrant” referred to a ruler, but it did not necessarily have a negative connotation.
Repercussions: The historian Josephus (c. 37–100), while calling Nero a tyrant, was also the first to mention bias against Nero.
- But I omit any further discourse about these affairs; for there have been a great many who have composed the history of Nero; some of which have departed from the truth of facts out of favour, as having received benefits from him; while others, out of hatred to him, and the great ill-will which they bore him, have so impudently raved against him with their lies, that they justly deserve to be condemned. Nor do I wonder at such as have told lies of Nero, since they have not in their writings preserved the truth of history as to those facts that were earlier than his time, even when the actors could have no way incurred their hatred, since those writers lived a long time after them.
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Ivan the Terrible (Ivan IV), inherited a certain Coat of Arms from his grandfather Ivan the Great (Ivan III). Officially Ivan the Terrible's grandfather was the first Russian ruler to use the Double Headed Eagle crest in Russia. But Ivan the Terrible was the one to be crowned the first Czar.
Apologies, but this Tyrant, and Czar topics were never supposed to be in the same thread. It just played out thay way.
Tyrannosaurus Rex [Tyrannus Rex]:
- Its name is from the Greek words meaning “tyrant” and “lizard” and the Latin word for “king.”
