400 year old Sahara Desert, or why people forgot everything they knew about Africa


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Probably over 10 years ago I checked out Fomenko's theory of shortening history and found that it seems incorrect, so I'm not inclined to suppose that history is wrong to such an extreme, but I believe in being open-minded and I may like to do a scientific comparison of several similar theories to try to make a determination of what the probability is for each one, kind of like what I did with Earth models a year ago.
Could you expound further (maybe make a new thread?) on why you disagree with Fomenko? His work has been critiqued and scrutinized by mathematicians and historians alike with no real debunking of his findings (of which I'm aware). If you have an alternate hypothesis or would just like to explain what you found that "seems incorrect" (and why), I for one, would be very interested to hear your thoughts.

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I happened to read this last night in a history of the reformation written by Helen White in the late 1800’s.

In fulfillment of this prophecy there occurred, in the year 1755, the most terrible earthquake that has ever been recorded. Though commonly known as the earthquake of Lisbon, it extended to the greater part of Europe, Africa, and America. It was felt in Greenland, in the West Indies, in the island of Madeira, in Norway and Sweden, Great Britain and Ireland. It pervaded an extent of not less than four million square miles. In Africa the shock was almost as severe as in Europe. A great part of Algiers was destroyed; and a short distance from Morocco, a village containing eight or ten thousand inhabitants was swallowed up. A vast wave swept over the coast of Spain and Africa engulfing cities and causing great destruction.
It was in Spain and Portugal that the shock manifested its extreme violence. At Cadiz the inflowing wave was said to be sixty feet high. Mountains, "some of the largest in Portugal, were impetuously shaken, as it were, from their very foundations, and some of them opened at their summits, which were split and rent in a wonderful manner, huge masses of them being thrown down into the adjacent valleys. Flames are related to have issued from these mountains."-- Sir Charles Lyell, Principles of Geology, page 495

Everything I find elsewhere just talks about Lisbon itself, philosophy or something. Nothing about Africa and each article pretty much parroting each other and probably from the same source, Wikipedia. The internet is censored in more ways than Google.

This doesn’t explain all of the African anomalies but can be added in to the evidence bucket.


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Your are a very perceptive man. We put this form into a category called intelligent recon. Meaning a state where you drop all preconceived ideas and all known previous knowledge. your goal is to see everything as if you have never been to Earth. So ask yourself what you see, hear, smell, feel and what does it mean to you. One lands in silence and starts understanding your surroundings.
Everyone on this site has a story. I would suggest that they are holding back waiting for someone else to start their conversation.

Every person wants to be liked and not ignored or rejected. So they hold the good info back. Now your with a group that needs evidence, but evidence could be different for each person looking at the same picture. Your buddies knew you were telling the truth because they also were having unique experiences. As recon we do not fully know what were looking for, but when you see it, all bets are off.
You will get better results by giving the group ideas to research. Your project will get results quicker.

A engineer in my group thinks the sand is a by product of heavy mining of rare earth minerals. My ranting is over for today.
Aren't we told that every grain of sand on every beach was the result of millions of years of parrot fish grinding coral? I called BS on that when I first heard it.


There have been some interesting ideas for how the sand appeared there, especially interesting are those through electric phenomena. I will add that glass can be turned back into sand through compaction. If we have a huge glass firmament above us (which separates the waters above), perhaps that glass above was reverted back to sand which rained down both sand and water creating deserts and the great flood. Those craters could be the energetic/kymatic signatures of the sonoluminescent (assumption) stars above as well which without the glass barrier left their imprint upon the newly rained down sand.

Lots of assumptions and I don't know how to advance the idea further but I can't propose any obvious objections to why this would be impossible or highly improbable.

While not directly Sahara related there is a misunderstood thing known as Libyan Desert Glass that is important to know about when considering desert related theories. I'll C&P more info below.

"Between the borders of Egypt and Libya is the Great Sand Sea, an enormous sandy desert that stretches about 650 km from north to south and 300 km from east to west, covering an area the size of Ireland. Prevailing winds have organized this great sand mass into huge longitudinal crested dunes rising 100 meters high at places and stretching uninterrupted for hundreds of kilometers, separated by flat corridors about a kilometer or two wide. In these long narrow gaps are areas where the underlying bedrock is exposed. In these exposed surfaces a curious natural glass is found.

The so called Libyan Desert Glass is the purest natural silica glass ever found on earth. The glass is generally yellow in color. It can be very clear or it can be a milky, and even contain tiny bubbles, white wisps, and inky black swirls. Over a thousand tons of these glass are strewn across hundreds of kilometers of bleak desert. Most of these are the size of pebbles polished smooth by the abrasive action of the blowing sand. Others are chunks of considerable size and weight. The biggest piece ever found weighed around 26 kg."

The Libyan Desert Glass (LDG) is in its chemical and physical characteristics absolutely unique and with no other natural glass comparable (volcanic glass, Tektites and impact glass). Nevertheless should be evidences for an impact origin the presence of schlieren and partly digested mineral phases, and Lechatelierite (a high-temperature mineral melts of quartz, however at slight pressure), and Baddeleyite, a high-temperature breakdown product of Zircon. But the so characteristic inclusions of small crystals of alpha-Tridymite and alpha-Cristobalite are missing in impact glasses. Also typical for tektite are spherical or drops - formed aerodynamic forms.

There are however also differences between the LDG and the "classical" impact glasses, mainly by the chemistry. LDG is a very silica-rich natural glass with about 95.5 - 99 wt.% SiO2, and shows a limited variation in major and trace element abundances. The degree of hardness (MOHS) is 6, the specific weight is 2.2 g/cm3, the refractive index is 1.46.
The viscosity is essentially greater than at tektites. The melting point is with 1727-1713° C more as 500° higher, than which other natural glasses. The Desert Glass differs from the Tektites also by higher capacity of water inclusions (0.050 - 0.200 wt.%). The colours of the LDG's varies from light-yellow, honey-yellow, green-yellow, milky-white to black-grey. "

Tutanhkamun’s pendant features a scarab (the light green stone in the center) carved from desert glass


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Some alternative history buffs might take offense to you referring to the elites as "people" :p

The Iraq thing -- yes, antiquity and relic looting was extremely common, though, of course, it's "hard to tell" who's been stealing what!
Unfortunately since the demise of reality we have idiots at the helm and people have become so dis-spondent to reality. They are blindly accepting idiotic concepts and will be enslaved do to their lack of desire for more.