When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.


You know you, then you know me!
“Know Thyself” – Socrates
“Examine yourself & understand who you are… Whoever does not know self, does not know anything. But, whoever knows self, has acquired the knowledge of the universe.” ~ Jesus, Book of Thomas (Gnostic Gospels)
“Knowing others is intelligence, knowing yourself is true wisdom.” – Lao-Tzu
“This is true knowledge, to seek the Self…To seek anything else is ignorance.” – Bhagavad-Gita
“He who knows himself knows God.” – The prophet Muhammad
“The body is the temple of the gods within you. And therefore, it is said, “Man: know thyself.” – ~ Egyptian Proverb
“Jesus said, ‘When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you shall know that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty.'” – Gospel of Thomas
“Those who know and realize the Self are forever free.” – Katha Upanishad
“All the scriptures tell us one thing: Know Thyself. If you have known yourself, you have known everything else.” – Swami Satchidananda


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I think you need to look harder. There are plenty of truths that have nothing to do with our perception. Math is full of them. I agree with the duality part of your thinking, as we live in a black and white world. It's the gray areas that don't really exist. That's the part we make up.

There are truths in Chaos theory as in strange attractors that have just a little bit of math behind them but infinite complexity and "truth" so that would be the opposite end of "Mathy" truths. My guess is super advanced civilizations are specialists in Chaos theory. A good understanding of that might be required for "Warp" drive!


It is a hard pill to swallow when a truth-seeker finds there is no truth, but the acceptance of that is so important. You began this journey to discover a treasure you find does not exist. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. This discovery is devastating, but it is not about the destination. It is about the journey; more importantly, what one learns on said journey.
I'm surprised to find that I'm in total agreement with all this. I don't see that as the end though, just another layer of the onion peeled. And they probably go on forever...

Where I'm at now is thinking about my process - can I improve my algorithms according to the values I now hold? What happens if I do it enough? Must be win/win, right? Or at least win/neutral. So good enough for the interim...

Look, I hate it. I cannot believe I signed up for this shit, but I did. The only glimmer of hope is that this is the last time. The last level of any game is the most difficult, and this level - this life of truth-seeking - has been the most alienating, disorienting, ostrasizing excercise in self-hate I can ever imagine. Surely, I am due a reprie
This I don't relate to at present, though I have surely felt despondent at times. Certainly I kick myself daily for all the opportunities missed. But could it ever have been different? And actually, this place is pretty wonderful in itself. Although, maybe I have Stockholm syndrome..
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