Was there a Global Flood, or a Disaster in 1860-1870?

KorbenDallas

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Accidentally ran into some documents kept at the US Library of Congress, pertaining to the Port Angeles (WA) Flood of 1863.

"In 1863 a great flood, such as never happened before or since, swept away most of the houses of the town and demolished the customs house. No one could figure out what caused the flood, but the Indians said the rains had melted long-accumulated snows in the mountains, which gave way all at once and rushed down through the rivers and creeks and valleys, a great wall of rushing water. " - The Flood at Port Angeles

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Well, some Google research revealed quite interesting details. What I find weird, is that we know so many historical events of fairly insignificant scale, but a disaster of this magnitude is not being talked about. At least I have never heard about it. Have you? And could this be the one, which buried world buildings in 6-10 feet of mud? And if it indeed was, all those building construction dates revolving around 1880s-1890s, will probably go out of the window.

Once again, it is hard to judge the exact dates, whether it was 1862, or 1865. The dates are close, and the monstrosity of the disaster calls for a simple question. What could have caused it?

USA - The Great Flood of 1862 - affected Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Sonora (Mexico), occurring from December 1861 to January 1862.
USA - California Megaflood: Lessons from a Forgotten Catastrophe - A 43-day storm that began in December 1861 put central and southern California underwater for up to six months
USA - Flooding Edsonville - 1863: The lesser known flood occurred in 1863 and involved the bustling downtown section of Rutland.
Australia - The flood of Melbourne - 1863: We publish in our telegraphic columns to-day an account of the heavy and destructive' flood with which our Victorian neighbours have been visited.
New Zealand - Blizzard and flood of 1863: The blizzard and flood of 1863 was a series of consecutive natural disasters in Central Otago in New Zealand's South Island.
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Australia - Flood on the Richmond -1863: We have been visited by the largest flood ever witnessed by white men.
Europe - 1865 flooding of Bucharest: As a result of snowmelt, Bucharest, the capital of Romania, was hit by the worst flooding in its history.
USA - The Great Rochester Flood of 1865: Just as the Civil War was ending, Rochester’s greatest natural catastrophe, in the form of a devastating flood, struck the city.
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Mississippi River flooding: The Mississippi River Valley in the Southern states, where levees had been damaged by the Civil War, experienced severe flooding in 1865, 1867, 1874, and 1882.
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1867 flood of Chattanooga: The largest flood in the city's recorded history.
UK - The Great Flood of 1866: A disastrous flood occurred which caused widespread and terrible damage to property in both Manchester and Salford.
USA - The great Baltimore/Maryland flood of 1868: The Jones Falls Overflowed Causing a Disaster Known as "Baltimore’s Black Friday Flood.”
USA - Lessons from Denver’s flood of 1864: After seeing the whites building in the dry bed of Cherry Creek, Chief Little Raven described for the newcomers how floods crashed down the creek unexpectedly.
And if you add The Great Denver Fire of 1863 to it, you will have a full set.
Autralia - Remembering the great Hawkesbury flood tragedy of 1867: 20-metre-high floodwaters

I could probably keep on going like this, but I think the point has been made. What the hell was going on back then?

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This one I can't find any info on.
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I think this is too many of the so-called "worst floods in history of __fill in here__" for such a short period of time. It all revolves around the Civil War for some reason, and maybe there is a reason for this coincidence.
 
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These events are being presented as something not related to each other. It starts to appear otherwise. We have simultaneously happening Great Fires, Great Floods, Super Construction efforts, and on top of it the Wars are being fought, while the industrial revolution is at full swing. Bizarre or not?
 

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Maybe a device that could have caused this type of formation we see in this pic was used on those locations. The image is of the southern part of the nile river.

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A video on Lichtenberg figures around the Earth piqued my interest at the certain destructive devices that were used or feats of nature that could have happened during those troubling times.

 
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Maybe a device that could have caused this type of formation we see in this pic was used on those locations. The image is of the southern part of the nile river.

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A video on Lichtenberg figures around the Earth piqued my interest at the certain destructive devices that were used or feats of nature that could have happened during those troubling times.
A Lichtenberg figure is distinctly different though as the dynamic that creates the fractal pattern in that kind of figure is plasma and in lakes and rivers etc its gravity. Both make a fractal pattern but with different characteristics. You can actually see in the photo places where the patterns in the sand meet up with water showing they are in the case of that photo likely just old river beds.

There are some very strange ones in Western Australia though that could possibly be what your talking about as they are actually black (like they may of been burned in) and probably can't be explained all by gravity and water as some of them seem to go up and down steep hills and rockfaces, that for sure could of been a weapon and its in an area that is now desert but almost certainly wasn't always a desert. Id post a photo but don't know how to screen shot a google earth satellite view thingy.
 

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Maybe a device that could have caused this type of formation we see in this pic was used on those locations. The image is of the southern part of the nile river.



A video on Lichtenberg figures around the Earth piqued my interest at the certain destructive devices that were used or feats of nature that could have happened during those troubling times.
Heres something you might like: ThunderboltsProject - electric universe.
 

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This is some great research, and really interesting history. I'm thinking these could be the explanation for the "mud floods", as opposed to some grand conspiracy. There are a lot of things that happened in the past that we never learned about in school, like the Dust Bowl for example. I had never heard of that until I saw the documentary on the History Channel. I definitely think there is a lot of history that is ignored or "modified" for propaganda reasons (like giants in the U.S., etc.) but there is also so much history that it would be too hard to include all of it in a semester college or high school course. Just mho.
 

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I first heard of Mud Flood just a few weeks ago but it fit perfectly into other catastrophes I've read about. Weve all hear about the bible flood but the bible story comes from a much older story written by the Sumerians. But other cataclysms come to mind. Again in the bible there is the story of I think it was Joshua and they were invading someones land and going to kill everyone and god told Joshua that the sun would not set until they had conquered the city. According to the bible the sun didnt set for 24 hours. Here is the weird part. The Mayans on the other side of the world had a day where the sun did not rise and they became terrified. The Mayan story is much longer than the bible version and more detailed. It went on for days and days. From what I remember there were meteorites raining down. The sun would come up in different areas of the sky and sometimes only for a couple hours then darkness again. Bottom line is that the earth once wobbles or was hit by something that changed it's rotation. Spin a bowl of pudding as fast as You can then stop it abruptly. It will splash over the edges and I think that may have been what caused the mud flood.

Edit: Forgot to add to the above comment that the Mayan's blamed the catastrophe on the arrival of Venus into our solar system. Oh and since that upheaval the Sun now rises in the east instead of the west. A strange claim to make, so absurd it has to be true.
 

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hello, new to this site. i can't say about these specific floods, but generally on the subject of where does water come from, i read an interesting theory a while back.

basically it said that down inside the earth where it is super hot, as materials are cycled in from the surface, that oxygen in oxides is released down there. the oxygen then binds with hydrogen to form water. the water of course will be super hot and it is forced upwards through cracks and crevices in the crust until it ultimately returns to the surface.

this theory was pointing out that deep mines often have to be constantly pumped out, even if they are digging through solid bedrock. 'where does that water come from at such depths, below the level of aquifers?' it said.

it also said a way you could know water had been formed within the earth was that it would have no titrium in it. apparently all surface water is contaminated with titrium from nuclear tests, and even if it passes through an aquifer it will still be contaminated. and in fact, there are springs that provide non-tritium contaminated water. so that water has to be something than other recycled atmospheric water. so this article said anyway.
 

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This is fascinating! I never learned any of this in school, and can't remember seeing it in history books. I got a book from the library called "Lost Chicago," by David Lowe. Haven't had time to do much more than skim through it, but already I see loads of half-buried windows and doors, mud all over the place, no people in the filthy streets, no images of actual construction...and I bet the author makes no mention of all this dirt and mud, and no mention of floods.

As for why nobody ever talks about these huge flooding events, well, I've noticed that people rarely look at a flooded region and think, "Hey, this is going to happen again, I'd better go live somewhere else." On the contrary, they immediately start thinking of ways they can put new buildings on that same area, right on top of the stuff that was demolished in the last flood. This is especially the case with land developers, who of course want to take every opportunity to construct more buildings, bring in more businesses and more home buyers, and make more money. They do this in Florida all the time, where hurricanes regularly destroy and flood everything on the coasts. Rather than urge people to go live someplace that doesn't get hurricanes, they simply build more hotels, resorts, casinos, condos, and shopping malls, and assure people that everything is fine, just look at all this real estate, how can anything bad happen with all these pretty pastel buildings here? And people, because they will believe any old thing they are told, believe the hype and go live in Florida and then complain when the next hurricane floods them out.

I doubt that even the biggest floods will prevent this pattern from happening over and over again. A flood of mud is just an opportunity for the land grabbers, condo builders, and businessmen to build more stuff and make more money. We can't have people thinking that their beautiful homes might be demolished in another flood, not if we want them to spend money in the new shopping centers we'll be building on the site of whatever was there before.

Of course, there's more to it than that, such as the whole idea of the reset, of making people forget the glorious past to make it easier for the governing bodies to enslave them; but money is a powerful motivator, too. It happens all the time, everywhere. People never learn from history, not even if it happened only a few months previously.
 

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hello, new to this site. i can't say about these specific floods, but generally on the subject of where does water come from, i read an interesting theory a while back.

basically it said that down inside the earth where it is super hot, as materials are cycled in from the surface, that oxygen in oxides is released down there. the oxygen then binds with hydrogen to form water. the water of course will be super hot and it is forced upwards through cracks and crevices in the crust until it ultimately returns to the surface.

this theory was pointing out that deep mines often have to be constantly pumped out, even if they are digging through solid bedrock. 'where does that water come from at such depths, below the level of aquifers?' it said.

it also said a way you could know water had been formed within the earth was that it would have no titrium in it. apparently all surface water is contaminated with titrium from nuclear tests, and even if it passes through an aquifer it will still be contaminated. and in fact, there are springs that provide non-tritium contaminated water. so that water has to be something than other recycled atmospheric water. so this article said anyway.

This is relatively recent news.

Huge Underground 'Ocean' Discovered Towards Earth's Core

Vast quantities of water buried deep.
 

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Hello again. Thought of a comment I wanted to make, but didn't think it warranted a whole new thread. Was trying to find someplace it would fit in.

I posted a quote from a book of Indian legends in another thread. I was thinking of some other stories in the same book.

This book has a bunch of folktales from the Passamaquoddy Indians in Maine and New Brunswick.

One of the bad guys in these stories is the beaver. There are several stories where the beaver deliberately floods all the land and everyone is being flooded out and washed away, and another character has to come and chase him away and undo the damage he has done.

It just struck me today that these stories might have some bearing on the stuff people talk about here.
 

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