Triumphal Arches, aka Ianuae Magicae: bridge portals between places, or regular structures?

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Hello, the fourth top engraving? Part of the inscription reads: Nostrum hoc augurium and translates to: This is an Omen and goes on about a woman needing a companion and fireworks machine made by order to honor the pope (they all do). Will you provide a link to these photos or a general idea where to locate them. Much appreciated.
Can't find it anymore, but I searched for Seconda Macchina for the Chinea
 

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What's the general opinion on the reasons these Arches are being preserved, and quite a few were actually restored and fixed up, like the US one in the OP.
We can all agree that a large amount of old buildings were destroyed post "event". So why keep the arches? That has to be deliberate. Does someone expect something to happen with them in the future? Or is it just pining after your old masters?
 

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We can all agree that a large amount of old buildings were destroyed post "event". So why keep the arches? That has to be deliberate. Does someone expect something to happen with them in the future? Or is it just pining after your old masters?
No. 2 is my interest.

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Interesting theories in this thread so far. Instead, I will find the reason for their construction in the spirit of the builders. Vanity, artistic endeavor and "just because we can build it and you will wonder how we did", hubris, pride ~n~splendor, wanting to "leave a legacy"/ "give a heritage to____"/ "pay tribute to ____". That is the way with all those fancy structures built throughout the ages built by great men and giants of industry.

Let us never divorce our rationale from the common experience we all know from being human and having interacted with human character(s). Now the common person is like each of us, but some have ideas they are better than others and should be deferentially treated, like obeyed blindly (usually). It is those who make such monuments to gain the awe and worship of others, demand power and authority and "monuments" to some achievement they did. A way to couch such brazen hubris is to do so under guise of State, like Mao, Stalin, Popes, so on. For that, building things only serves to keep the populace occupied while political manouevering is going on. Even during Rome, whenever that was.

Man creates things BECAUSE HE CAN. Sometimes the explanation is simple as that. Of course the symbolism of the GATE/ PORTAL, etc. is an ancient religious notion and general idea of how travel between spaces of creation occur. That doesn't mean that they actually do it. It is fun to imagine them doing that, and there is the sugary bait for that theory. Unfortunately, I think their truer purposes are much more mundane, often serving someone's ego or made to fulfill some agenda.

AND, let us never forget artistic endeavor. That is a true catch-all explanation for many things.
 

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Maybe Wikipedia has the right of it this time. I dunno, but I hate to admit the agenda-driven Wikipedia would be right about anything. Even a broken clock is still right twice a day. ;-) That's my only consolation about that.
 

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Perhaps somewhat related is the Arch of Glory of Imperator Maximilian I by Albrecht Dürer, hypothesized by Fomenko to really be a painter for a Mongolian (Tartarian?) empire.

Pieces of art, prescribed today to a famous artist allegedly of the XV-XVI centuries Albrecht Durer, were probably made one hundred years later – in the XVII century. A famous "Arch of Glory of Imperator Maximilian I" of Dured.

In 1999 for the first time in Russia (in the book "Reconstruction of the universal history" (3), 1999, Appendix 1, and also Chapter 6, paragraph 6) we fully published "Arch of Glory", created by �.Durer and his employees, as it is considered, in the XVI century. We used the available for us unique German edition [1067]. "Arch of Glory" was reproduced in [1067] on 36 sheets 50�70 sm.
Although these sheets are of big size, even on them some details of engravings are rather small. We reproduce "Arch of Glory" especially in a large scale, as many small details and plots, important for restoration of correct history of the Middle Ages, are placed on it. These are signatures under engravings, emblems, honors on the clothes, military banners, ancient arms, historical persons etc. Although, as we showed in chapter 18:8 of the book "Reconstruction" (CHRON7), this outstanding work was most likely subject to tendentious editorial proof in the XVII-XVIII centuries, still it brings a lot of valuable information. Its importance is especially seen in terms of new chronology. In fact, on the "Arch of Glory" in a short form the history of an important period, the Great = "Mongol" Empire is described.

By the way, today this outstanding work of A.Durer and his colleagues for some reason is not advertised by the publishers, is nearly not published, and because of this is little known. In all accessible for us usual albums of A.Durer in the best case seldom only an overall view of the "Arch of Glory" is provided. But due to its big size it is nearly impossible to see any details on such book pictures. All this looks rather strange. With great difficulty we finally managed to find in an antique book shop in Germany an edition, which already became a rarity long ago [1067]. But due to big size of sheets (50 � 70 sm.) this wide format album-folder was issued in its time in a very limited number of copies and today is nearly not accessible. It may happen that publication of the "Arch of Glory" in our book "Reconstruction of the universal history (3)" (1999) is the first publication in the world, that gives possibility to see better all the details of engravings, made by A.Durer and his colleagues. The reasons of such restraint of modern historians relatively to the "Arch of Glory" of Durer probably becomes clear after our analysis of its contest, see book "Reconstruction" (CHRON7) ch.18:8. Looks like the thing is that ancient pictures on the "Arch of Glory" sometimes hardly fit in the Scaligerian version of history, in spite of all the efforts of the editors of the XVII-XVIII centuries to "smooth" this work.
Traces of the fact that many of Dürer’s works were actually created not earlier than the 17th century are found when comparing their plots with the facts already established by us. For example, in the book HRON6 we showed that the biblical history of Esther and Judith is a reflection of the events of the Russian-Horde history of the second half and the very end of the 16th century. And here we learn that Durer painted two engravings on the history of the biblical Judith [1234], p.25. See fig.18.49 and pic.18.50 . Consequently, these Dürer engravings were not created until the middle or the end of the 16th century. It turns out a good agreement with the above results, relating the work of Dürer to the XVII century. It is not by chance that the biblical characters are depicted on the above engravings of Durer as medieval people, knights in armor, etc.,ris.48.49 and ris.18.50 .
Dürer's famous work "The Arch of Glory of Emperor Maximilian I" [1067] also, most likely, came to us in an edited version of the XVII century. General view of the unique work presented in ris.18.51. It is not excluded that the Arch of Glory was indeed created in the 16th century by direct order of Tsar Khan Vasily III, reflected in the pages of Western chronicles as Maximilian I, see CHRON7, gl.13: 19. According to the requirement of the Emperor, the Arch of Glory should reflect the history and genealogy of the Imperial House, that is, as we now understand, the history of the Great = "Mongolian" Empire. It was the official royal project, which, we must assume, was given great importance. And of course, from beginning to end he had to be under the constant supervision of Khan officials, who jealously controlled the execution of the order, and first of all in terms of its absolute compliance with the wishes of the tsar-khan. The Arch of Glory reflected the views of the then Horde "Mongolian" court on the history of its Great Empire.Fully and in all details we published the Arch of Glory in [REK]: 3. By the way, for the first time in Russia. In any case, for the first time after the XVII century.
The Arch of Glory consisted of 190 engravings, which were then collected into a single image on a large flat panel measuring approximately 3 by 4 meters. As a result, the Arch area was slightly more than ten square meters. Engravings were made on wooden boards [1117], p.91. The Arch of Glory was made, as historians write, after the pattern of the “ancient” Roman triumphal arches [1117], p.91. But only those were made in stone, and the Dürer Arch was painted on paper.
As we now begin to understand, on the "Mongolian" Arch of Glory of the XVI century, there certainly had to be a lot of this, which was absolutely unacceptable for later XVII century reformers, who began to deform the old history in accordance with their new, "progressive" views. Therefore, it seems to us very natural that the Arch of Glory - if it really was created in the XVI century, in the era of the Great = "Mongolian" Empire, - then underwent substantial editing. Apparently, it was partially reworked in the light of the new historical version proclaimed in Western Europe. In particular, the history of the Khans of the Habsburgs = Novgorodians of the XIV-XVI centuries has already been declared a purely Western European “local” history. Withdrawing it from the history of Russia-Horde. Arch of Glory, too, definitelybegan to be interpreted as a Western European work of art, reflecting supposedly EXCLUSIVELY Western European events. What was not true. In fact, the Arch of Glory briefly outlined the history of the entire Great = "Mongol" Empire. That is, the reformers greatly reduced the scale of events reflected on the Arch of Maximilian. Some fragments of the Arch of Glory easily survived such a new interpretation. They simply began to be treated differently. But there were, probably, such plots, which, with all the desire, it was impossible to declare in any way purely Western European. For they carried on themselves too bright "Mongolian" imprint. These had to redraw. Our thought is indirectly confirmed by the interesting fact that, as we are informed today, the VERY NUMBER of ORIGINALS OF WOODEN WALLS ARKA FALLEN.These original boards were lost under not very clear circumstances. In quite general terms, they write like this: "For 240 years, TWENTY-ONE wooden board has been lost" [1067], p.318.
Of course, 21 of the 190 boards could have been lost due to the simple negligence of the servants of the royal court. But it is very likely that among the “lost boards” were those on which the “Mongolian” images were particularly intolerant at variance with the new reformist history. And that was hard to edit. They could destroy. Dry wooden boards burn well.
In exchange, apparently, have made new. And, most likely, they said authoritatively that "it always has been." That is, as if the new boards absolutely reproduce the old originals. Doubt it. The fact is that the Dürer Arch of Glory, which we know today, bears obvious traces of editing, and is quite frank and careless. The reformers did not particularly bother themselves. For example, they obviously removed any coats of arms that have become particularly "dangerous" from the Arch of Glory. Draw instead new ones did not bother. They simply left WHITE SPOTS in these places, that is, the empty frames of the coats of arms. Some examples we give in ris.181 , ris.18.53 . This is most clearly seen in fig.18.53. In the same row are the surviving coats of arms and EMPTY ARMS. AND THE THREE EMPTY CEREALS ARE LOCATED NOT ANYWHERE, BUT NEAR THE FIGURE OF THE RULER. It is absolutely clear that there could only be some particularly significant, honorary symbols "admitted to the king." And here they are frankly erased from the Arch of Glory.
Not only the coats of arms were removed. Destroyed and images of some rulers. This is clearly seen in ris.18.54 and ris.18.55 . Instead of the former kings here, mockingly painted pillows. Like, there were some wrong rulers or clerics. We threw them out of history. After them there were only pillows.
Moreover, it cannot be said that the empty places were left here from the very beginning because there were not enough characters for the original Arch of Glory. Presumably, the candidates "to remain in the centuries" was enough in abundance. After all, the compilers of the Arch of Glory placed not only the rulers, but also the clergy on it. It is clear that worthy figures were more than enough.
Further.Prudently destroyed and some pictures. On fig.18.56 and fig.18.57 we see two side columns of the Arch of Glory Maximilian. The columns were covered with paintings from top to bottom. But on the left column, one image was taken and instead of it depicted a plain stonework. On the right column did the same with two more paintings. Thrown away. In addition, at the same time erased and the inscription, obviously the former on one of the paintings. A gaping white cartouche remained.
We emphasize that all such glaring oddities can in no way be explained by the carelessness of the original performers of the Arch of Glory in the 16th century. Recall that this was the OFFICIAL STATE ORDER of IMPERATOR MAXIMILIAN. That is, according to our reconstruction, Tsar Khan Vasily III. Obviously, a huge amount of work was invested in the Arch of Glory and, I suppose, a lot of money. Not only for the manufacture of 190 boards, but also for printing engravings, for the creation of large printed copies of the Arch of Glory, for their distribution, etc. The imperial office was certainly vigilantly and jealously following the careful execution of an order of state importance. You can be sure that the master, noticed in carelessness, would immediately pay with his head. Maybe not even figuratively, but literally. There’s hardly any doubtthat the original version of the Arch of Glory of Emperor Khan Maximilian was executed with the greatest care, down to the smallest detail. And of course, there were no white spots or empty spaces. The masters were clearly aware of what was assigned to them.
All these suspicious voids appeared only later, when the reformers of the XVII century, without haste, in the silence of the offices, cleaned up the history. However, as they will tell us, they can be understood. After all, they also executed an important state order of the new government - to remove all harmful from the Arch of Glory. And rather neatly executed an unspoken order. Although, as we have seen, something still missed. Probably already forgotten the true recent history. They also missed the curious word GRAD, which occurs at the end of the title of several rulers on the Arch of Glory. See, for example, ris.18.54 and ris.18.55 . Do we find here the word Grad, Horde, horda, City?
Concerning the name Erhenpforte = Arch of Glory in German, we note that PFORTE is just a slightly distorted Slavic word GATE, GATE. And the first word EHRE = honor, in German, most likely, comes from the Slavic proud and horde.
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The source link below has zoomed in pages if anyone is interested.

Source: Albrecht Durer - Arch of Glory of Imperator Maximilian I
 

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I would be curious to see a map of the star forts juxtaposed with a map of known triumphal arch locations- bonus points for arch orientations. If star forts and triumphal arches were made by this same civilization, I wonder why the arches were dressed up and remained while TPTB destroyed star forts to the best of their ability. I guess one could ask the same question for anything, like the pyramids, but I digress.

Same way water was moved over aqueducts, I am wondering if these arches connected or are connecting something(s) in a network of sorts- ley lines? We all know there are gobs and gobs of folk tales, no matter what part of the world you're in, of unseen realities/entities we share our world unbeknownst to us. Popular theories posit we simply can't detect these other bits of our world as well as we use to be able to for whatever reason. Could arches be a giant restrictive collar, a cage of sorts? Could all of these histories we are allowed refer to them as doorways because they are not?
 

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Could arches be a giant restrictive collar, a cage of sorts? Could all of these histories we are allowed refer to them as doorways because they are not?
Interesting idea!
Think about it from this angle: Why would you build the walls of a cage out of 'material' that can be easily destroyed..or even identified?
 
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Here is an interesting arch.

Royal Arch aka Victoria Arch
Dundee, Scotland
The arch was built to commemorate a prior visit to the city by Queen Victoria and her husband, Prince Albert, in 1844. Victoria and Albert were on a visit to Duke of Atholl and his nephew, Lord Glenlyon (who succeed the unmarried duke 2 years later). The Royal boat landed at the Royal Arch and the couple returned and embarked for London on 1 October 1844. This was the first visit by a British monarch to Dundee since the 17th century, although Victoria often visited the city as it was on her route to Balmoral Castle.

An earlier arch, designed by harbour engineer, James Leslie, was made out of wood. Following a design competition for a more permanent structure, John Thomas Rochead, designer of the Wallace Monument near Stirling, was commissioned to design a permanent sandstone monument to replace the wooden arch. The Royal Arch, commonly known in Dundee as the Victoria Arch, was described as being in the "Anglo-Norman" style and consisted of a large, triumphal arch, flanked by two smaller side arches, surmounted by two central turrets. It was 80 feet across. Costing somewhere between £2,270.00 and £3,000.00, it was mostly funded by public subscription and harbour trustees. It was situated between King William IV Dock and Earl Grey Dock on the south side of Dock Street between the junctions of Castle Street, and Whitehall Crescent. The Arch was demolished on 16 March 1964, as part of land reclamation work required for the construction of the Tay Road Bridge. The arch was dynamited, and the rubble deposited in both the King William IV and the Earl Grey Docks. Afterwards, these docks were land-filled to accommodate the slip roads for the new road bridge.

Fun Fact
Fragments of the arch were uncovered while the waterfront was being redeveloped in 2010, and its foundations were uncovered in 2014. In 2015, a petition was launched to build a replica of the arch. The Dundee City Council has stated that they "could never have rebuilt something like [the Royal Arch]", but granite paving slabs were put on the site of the arch, and four trees were planted nearby to commemorate the landmark.

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Source: Royal Arch (structure) - Wikipedia
 

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Glastonbury Tor
'Coincidentally', Tor in German means gate, or portal.

For some reason in celtic it supposedly only means hill: Glastonbury Tor - Wikipedia
With the 19th century resurgence of interest in Celtic mythology, the Tor became associated with Gwyn ap Nudd, the first Lord of the Otherworld (Annwn) and later King of the Fairies.[65][66] The Tor came to be represented as an entrance to Annwn or to Avalon, the land of the fairies. The tor is supposedly a gateway into "The Land Of The Dead (Avalon).
 

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I read the following comment in a youtube vid:

The "stars" in our skies is simply a "MAP" just like the ones in our subways today. It is only a representation of real physical places and locations. There are and were "way-stations" all around the world but one had to understand the "schedules" ie. astrology. The knowledge of alignments and positions needed to be known as to when one can walk through the door/gate. The nasa bullshit is that one can get there by "rockets". The only means of traversing to different locations as shown to us in our night-sky IS as our past ancestors knew to do...DOOR-WAYS, STAR-GATES. They are written about in every past culture...even with evidence still around....just not even close to understanding the meanings. - TinyApe

It reminded me of Heaven's Gate. The members of the "cult" committed mass suicide at the time the comet Hale-Bopp passed by in 1997.
Just before the suicide, the group's website was updated with the message: "Hale-Bopp brings closure to Heaven's Gate ... Our 22 years of classroom here on planet Earth is finally coming to conclusion – 'graduation' from the Human Evolutionary Level. We are happily prepared to leave 'this world' and go with Ti's crew." Heaven's Gate (religious group) - Wikipedia

I remember this being in the news when it happened. They all wore Nikes. The swoosh looks like a comet. Nike, the goddess of victory.
Their bodies were left behind, but who is to say their souls didn't travel to another place?

So much "ancient" ARCHitecture lines up with celestial bodies, like the pyramids. Maybe this gal in the comment section of a youtube video is on to something.
 
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Let's not forget this very famous arch in Bolivia, the Gateway of the Sun.

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It stands near Lake Titicaca, site of so many interesting structures, most of which haven't even been studied or excavated. Some have been dug up and the pieces moved around, making it harder to determine their original purpose and locations. However, a great many items were found in a very broken and scattered condition, sometimes strewn over miles of landscape and partly or entirely buried in the dirt. The Gate of the Sun was, itself, found lying flat and cracked into two pieces. Such extensive damage over many hundreds of structures surely can't be the result of buildings standing around over the centuries and simply falling apart where they stood.

Since archaeologists are fond of moving things about, and the catastrophe(s) of the past probably moved this arch from its original location, anyway, we don't know if there was some sort of wall on either side. And what were those holes for? Something, presumably, must have been inserted into them, but what? At any rate, we have this gate, or doorway, or portal, standing in the middle of nowhere, like so many of the more modern arches all over the world. Maybe this is how it was, originally. Maybe there were statues or devices on the top that are now long gone, just as we see statues on many other arches.
Teleportation portals are tempting. Hard to bring it together with the primitive stone forms and the complete lack of technological remains.

I just can't bring the portal idea together with the naturalistic images on the arches.
Ah, but what is inside of those arches, I wonder? I guess we can't just go drilling into them to find out, but maybe some type of x-ray/soundwave scanning doohickeys could detect something. That is unlikely ever to happen, though. Who would spend money x-raying something that obviously can't possibly be hiding high technology because everyone KNOWS that no tech existed that far in the past?
 

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Not to forget modern day
Baal arches scheduled for New York City and London, England — CANCELLED

In a bizarre twist, the day the arches were to be set up coincided with the ancients celebration of the Baal idols which typically ran in the spring as part of the fertility rite associated with the planting of their crops. In fact, there is evidence April 19th may have been a key date in many of the ancient calendars.

The Gateway Arch
Envisioned and designed by architect Eero Saarinen in 1947, it ended up being the final construction project of his brilliant career. When asked why he thought an arch would be a good symbol for the JNEM, he said,

"The major concern here was to create a monument which would have lasting significance and would be a landmark of our time. An absolutely simple shape -- such as the Egyptian pyramids or obelisks -- seemed to be the basis of the great memorials that have kept their significance and dignity across time. Neither an obelisk nor a rectangular box nor a dome seemed right on this site or for this purpose. But here, at the edge of the Mississippi River, a great arch did seem right. The arch could be a triumphal arch for our age as the triumphal arches of classical antiquity were for theirs."
The Masonic Astronomy of the Gateway Arch
 

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Pure size of these arches is in line with everything else seemingly built for different size humanoid species.

I think analyzing it from the common sence point of view would eventually suggest that we could definitely imitate and copy, but the originals are not built by us, as well as not for us. And we, the general public, have no clue what they were for. IMHO.

Below is a psychological reason for tremendous doorway/gateways - they promote forgetting memories formed before you walked through the gate and maybe the effect is influenced by the size of the gateway. An army back from war moving through a large triumph arch might be made just a little less belligerent.

"The doorway effect suggests that there’s more to the remembering than just what you paid attention to, when it happened, and how hard you tried. Instead, some forms of memory seem to be optimized to keep information ready-to-hand until its shelf life expires, and then purge that information in favor of new stuff. Radvansky and colleagues call this sort of memory representation an “event model,” and propose that walking through a doorway is a good time to purge your event models because whatever happened in the old room is likely to become less relevant now that you have changed venues. "
Doorways - The linking between your memory frames | Subliminal Hacking


My guess is there is some kind of minor therapeutic effect walking through grand arches and if an MRI could be done while walking through a large arch, a relatively significant brain state change might be discovered.
 
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