The Seal of the State of Colorado: All Seeing Eye, Fasces and XIX-19

KorbenDallas

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I just could not help myself and got sucked into these United States Seals. Next one is the The Seal of the State of Colorado. It's just as interesting as the California Sate one. The design for the territorial seal which served as a model for the state seal or Great Seal of Colorado has been variously credited, but the individual primarily responsible was Lewis Ledyard Weld, the territorial secretary, appointed by President Abraham Lincoln in July 1861. There is also evidence that Territorial Governor William Gilpin also was at least partially responsible for the design. Both Weld and Gilpin were knowledgeable in the art and symbolism of heraldry. Elements of design from both the Weld and Gilpin families’ coats of arms are incorporated in the territorial seal.

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The official description of the Seal of Colorado is:
  • At the top is the Eye of Providence or "All Seeing Eye" within a triangle, from which golden rays radiate on two sides. Below the eye is a Roman fasces, a bundle of birch or elm rods with a battle axe bound together with a ribbon of red, white and blue with the words, Union and Constitution. The bundle of rods bound together symbolizes strength which is lacking in the single rod. The axe symbolizes authority and leadership. Below the fasces is a heraldic shield bearing across the top a red sky behind three snow-capped mountains and clouds above them. The lower half of the shield has two miner's tools, the pick and sledge hammer, crossed on a golden ground. Below the shield, on a scroll, is the motto, "Nil Sine Numine", Latin words meaning "Nothing without providence" or "nothing without the Deity", and at the bottom the figures 1876, the year Colorado came into statehood.
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There could be other things in this Seal, but I see three things which have nothing to do with the United States of America State of Colorado. They are:
  • the All Seeing Eye
  • Roman, but in reality Etruscan (at least) Fasces
  • this XIX (19) securing the Fasces
The All Seeing Eye
Wikipedia chooses to call it the Eye of Providence. Allegedly, the Eye has its origin in Christian iconography, showing an eye often surrounded by rays of light or a glory and usually enclosed by a triangle. It represents the eye of God watching over humanity. In the modern era, a notable depiction of the eye is the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, which appears on the United States one-dollar bill.


If this All Seeing Eye has its origin in Christian iconography, we might as well shut down our forum here. I don't want to go into the "Eye" issue here. The thing is big enough to be a thread of its own.

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I doubt that one of us knows the true meaning of the Eye, but I'm pretty sure the ones who placed it on the Seal should. Their names were mentioned above. That is, of course, if those individuals had anything to do with it. For some speculative info on this Eye thing we have some links below:
Then we have these Benben Stones, which make the entire All Seeing Eye issue just more confusing.

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The Fasces
Roman, or Etruscan Fasces is one of the things we all have seen, yet our understanding of this bundle of wood appears to be as far from the truth as possible. I dare to say that we know nothing about it. This innocent pile of twigs with an attached axe could be one of the most powerful weapons known to mankind. I have strong reasons to believe that there is a group of people in our contemporary world, who know what this fasces device actually is, and what it does, and what it means. The meaning of this symbol should not be underestimated, for it allows us to understand who is who on the power ranking scale.
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XIX or 19
I have no independent knowledge as far as numerology, or religious/occult meaning of numbers goes. Therefore I just googled the meaning of the number 19. Here is what Simon says, though to be honest there was way more associated with #19. The below are the most interesting ones I observed:
  • The Israelite tribe of Naphtali received 19 cities, with their villages, as part of their inheritance in the Promised Land (Joshua 19:38). Their gift of land, from God, was in the northern most part of what would become Israel. It encompassed the entire western section of the Sea of Galilee.
  • Including Jeroboam, Israel was ruled by nineteen (19) kings before God allowed them to be conquered by the Assyrians. They were conquered and taken out of the land as captives due to their many sins against the Eternal.
  • Number 19 is an extraordinary number. In ancient times, it was known as the ‘Number of Surrender’. It is the prime number that means it is only divisible by itself and number 1.
  • The lunar and solar cycles coincide every 19 years.
Hammer and Pick
I have nothing to say about the "Hammer and Pick" part, but some of the internet images look pretty provocative. If you know something interesting about this symbol, please let us know.

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And as I was writing this post, I ran into the below video. It's about 20 minutes long. So far I just listened to the intro, and the guy is talking about some UFO connection. The description provided with the video states, "There is a secret message hidden in the Colorado State seal. What does it say?"


KD: Whatever train of thought was utilized by the creators of the Seal of Colorado... I doubt it was mentioned in any of the official sources. None of this appears to have anything to do with the state of Colorado in our traditional understanding of the 19th century history. If you have any thoughts on this, please share.

Related thread: The Great Seal of the State of California: Horned Creature and the War Goddess
 

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I was driving down Broadway last week and was particularly struck by the obelisk in front of the Colorado State Capitol building.

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Some people love the "Cap Hill" area, but the place has always given me a bad vibe. The homeless people around there are the most aggressive and unpleasant you'll find in all of Denver. People in general are more hostile around the Civic Center area these days.

P.S. - I almost forgot the preamble and boundary descriptions within the Colorado State Constitution. Wild stuff!

Preamble
We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, in order to form a more independent and perfect government; establish justice; insure tranquility; provide for the common defense; promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for the "State of Colorado".

ARTICLE I. Boundaries.
The boundaries of the State of Colorado shall be as follows: Commencing on the thirty-seventh parallel of north latitude, where the twenty-fifth meridian of longitude west from Washington crosses the same; thence north, on said meridian, to the forty-first parallel of north latitude; thence along said parallel, west, to the thirty-second meridian of longitude west from Washington; thence south, on said meridian, to the thirty-seventh parallel of north latitude; thence along said thirty-seventh parallel of north latitude to the place of beginning.
 
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"Do ordain"

wonder what that has todo with the freedom of religion? that looks like a bundle of fascism on that seal! I started writing another reply for this thread but it got out of hand lol so I posted it here instead Etymology of Etymology?
(bottom half of post #5)
didnt want to clutter up this thread but it also kinda fits in the topic of that one too.

p.s. interesting take on the EYE of RA from an interesting guy:

Identifying The All Seeing Eye.
flip it 90deg and it is the trinity (Isis/Horis/set) plus the serpent.

his take is compelling on many things and he has dont more bible studies than most but many of his interpretations do not agree with my own and Im not 'onboard' with him on the external deity way but many of his vids/opinions are very interesting. check them out!
 
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Wow, I guess it is true.
Colorado is going to be the new Illuminati capitol of Pan-America when the Hunger games begin.

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Being the tools of the stone mason, you would think those guys would be all over this.
But all I see is the arm and hammer forming a G.

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No matter. This is a proven deceiver symbol right here.
It probably means of the rumors of DUMBs in the area are true.

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"p.s. interesting take on the EYE of RA from an interesting guy:

Identifying The All Seeing Eye.
flip it 90deg and it is the trinity (Isis/Horis/set) plus the serpent.

his take is compelling on many things and he has dont more bible studies than most but many of his interpretations do not agree with my own and Im not 'onboard' with him on the external deity way but many of his vids/opinions are very interesting. check them out!

Very interesting video.
If this is the serpent, the mother, and the tree.

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Then the mystery of the Carolina flag has been solved.


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Then the mystery of the Carolina flag has been solved.


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please share then, its probably obvious but Im not making a connection and I have roots from that land.

he does have many more interesting interpretations and his take on the velikosky stuff (or something like it) is very interesting. I plan to spend some more time watching his vids even though I dont subscribe to the same 'beliefs' as he.
 

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