Q Metaphysics: Beyond Reality – The End of Deception and the Rebirth of HumanityTartary, the civilization that we erased from history, occupied New York, Chicago, St. Louis, Washington D.C, and many other areas. They were not only all over the United States but all over the world, from the Americas to Europe to Russia, China, Africa, Japan, Australia, and more. You may have seen a number of their amazing and beautiful structures, and perhaps even thought why we seem unable to build them even today. You will not find any photographs or evidence of construction for these buildings and cities, but some of them are still standing. You may even have some in your own city, though most of them were destroyed when this great war was at its peak in the 19th century.
I was looking through an old history book I have from 1832 for any references to the Tartars, and found a single reference on page 259 to the Tartars that may be worth researching further. It reads:Summary: I think there is enough circumstantial evidence to justify a deeper look into who fought who, and why this Tartary country is so little known about.
And the main question out of this all should be what is the purpose of misleading generations of people? It appears there is something tremendously serious hidden in our recent history.
the way I read that is it wasnt part of the Monarhcy/Empire until it was no longer subject to Tartarian rule. or IOW, thats when Tartaria was finally conquered there. before, it was deemed to Tartary until it was 're deemed' to that MonarchWhat does it mean that the Russian empire was under subjection to the Tartars? How did he redeem the empire from the Tartars?
This English envoy of the Mongols (Tatars/'Tartars') was apparently an exile from England who had lost all he owned to gambling at Acre, Israel, and then wandered 'in a shameful state of want' further east into modern Iraq and beyond before the Mongols persuaded him to join them due to his apparent skill with languages, at which point he then travelled with them until he returned to Europe and was finally captured in Austria. Given that he had clearly travelled huge distances with the Mongols and, most especially, his role as envoy and interpreter for the Mongol khan, it seems possible that he was an earlier English visitor than Basil to the Mongol capital of Karakorum, Mongolia.
Expanding on this, if we decompose 韃靼 we get:I have no idea what language they spoke in Tartaria, but examining this 1785 Japanese map leads me to believe that it could be written in Chinese.
It might be difficult to distinguish, especially if you don't know what you're looking for, but there are two scripts on the map. One that looks like this タルタリア and one that looks like this 韃靼. The former is katakana, the latter is Chinese (which functions in Asia pretty much like Latin functions in Europe). Katakana is used on the map as a pronunciation guide and for foreign locations that don't use the Chinese writing system (which has some potentially interesting implications for bits of Japan and Korea there, but that's a different topic).
Both of those words in bold are names for Tartaria, but the Chinese suggests that the Tartars referred to their own land as Tartar or Tatar.
Pronunciations of 韃靼 in various languages of the region:
But could the "ia/n" on the end actually have come from Chinese too?
- Dada - Mandarin
- Taatdaat - Cantonese
- Daldal - Korean
Pronunciations of 韃靼人 (Tartarian) in various languages of the region:
"Who are those people?"
- Dadaren - Mandarin
- Taatdaatyan - Cantonese
- Daldalin - Korean
"Oh, they're Dadaren!"
Great find. I moved it here for discussion.Hey check out this map you posted - in the upper left, in the orange and blue box, though in Latin, you can read that Columbus Discovered America in 1592 . . . not 1492 like the rhyme goes in school . . . . something is definitely up.
Thank you for this. I also realized the town is now Kaynardzha, which explains the original treaty name.The Royal Military Chronicles: Or British Officers Monthly, vol. 6, page 268 The brief synopsis you read is just an introduction to each chapter of the proceeding book. It gives a chronicle of the military campaigns, rulers, politics of the various engagements in Turkey, Cuba, Tartary, etc. Also included in the chapters are details (field manual instructions) on building "fascines", land mines and other information useful to the soldier. This was from 1742 to the mid 1800's. Wasn't aware they had land mines in 1742. There are details of the campaigns waged in and by Russia (and Detroit, of all places) in 1812 which may be of interest to some readers.
Excerpt from Chapter 5 synopsis: "[Field Marshal] Suwarow is sent into the Crimea and is present at the elevation of Schabin Schiray, to the dignity of Khan. He goes to Pultowa where he is attacked by an inflammatory fever. Rejoins his corps on the Cuban and erects fortifications on the bank. ...Goes to the Crimea after the departure of Count P. and received a command. The Porte disturbed at the appointment of a new Khan. ...The Attukays make irruptions into the Cuban. Schabin Schiray is acknowledged Khan by the Grand Signor."
Cuban is one of 2 main rivers flowing into the Azov. (On the old maps it's spelled Kuban) The other being the Don. It's not the Cuba that's 90 miles from Florida. (I didn't know either and had to look it up). There are maps showing its location but they're too big to upload and the ones that aren't too big are too small to be readable. If you want to confirm you can check out the image from page 645 of '[Travels through the Southern Provinces of the Russian Empire in 1793 and 1794. Translated from the German [by F. W. Blagdon]]' . Chapter 6 of the second link is all about the defeat of the Nogay Tartars. Cossocks made treaties with the Tartars but didn't think they could trust them and so made plans to disarm and relocate them to a wasteland area and kill those who resisted. (They just keep recycling the same tyranny, don't they?)
Wow, what a fantastic link to a very old map! It's incredible. You can't even find a map that old in the archives. I should add it!I am not questioning what you are saying. I merely try to point out an opinion, that there could have been a global civilization covering the entire map. And if that civilization had a unified language, it could have been the same language they spoke in Tartaria. But then we have a question, does Russia speak Russian, or modified Tartarian? I know that you mentioned some evidence showing that it's the other way around, but I am yet to see that evidence. I might as well be wrong on that one. For example this 1492 map has Tartaria on there, Russia not so much.
As far as the artifacts you pointed out go. The reason for the cover up could be well beyond just Russia. It makes more sense to hide that the world was technologically educated, and global before. And if your artifacts belonged to that global advanced civilization (which could have spoken Tartarian), it makes just as much sense to prevent the info from being public. Sorry, I just do not see any direct benefit received from hiding the age of Russian heritage alone.
On a separate note, as maps and flags/crests show, there simultaneously existed Tartaria and Russia. And from what I understand, Russia played its part in today's non-existence of Tartaria.
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