Symbolism of Hyperborea

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Map of Hyperborea:
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Labyrinth:

Illustration of Jericho in a Farhi Bible (14th century)
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Crop Circle:
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The Brain as Labyrinth, leading to the Pineal Gland:
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Ouroboros circling the Tree of Life:
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Hyperborea/Ouroboros
Borea - from Greek Boreas, name of the god of the north wind

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM
3.14 is Pi, the center of a circle or Source
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Thoughts: All roads lead inward. This realm, to me at least, seems to work in opposites. To exit a place, we have been taught to go outside, but I think what all of the examples above illustrate is that to exit (Exodus) this realm, we must go within.
 

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We are all an individual universe of one.

All the answers I am quite sure are locked in our brains. For each and every one of us has been here since time immemorial. Unless of course we were more recently genetically engineered by Aliens, you know, that old chestnut!

I like your post, very thought provoking and any time anybody can work in crop circles, one of my favorite subjects, I take notice.
 

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Popular symbol representing the Sidhe race

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What the what! I immediately thought of Star Wars, nerd that I am. The term Sith originally referred to a species of aliens native to the planets Korriban and Ziost, who were later enslaved and ruled by exiled Dark Jedi from the Galactic Republic.

Sorry for the minor derailment, more like just a wee pebble on the track.

I like how that symbol ties in with crop circles and how extremely prevalent and prolific the crop circles are in Great Britain. The home of the Sidhe.
 
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They are said to live underground in fairy mounds...
Under/In - More symbolism to look within. Perhaps one take on the Sidhe Race is a "Race to the Inside". Maybe we are in a race to know ourselves before we die.
I immediately thought of Star Wars, nerd that I am. The term Sith
The Force Yoda told Luke to use was within.
 

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They are said to live underground in fairy mounds...
Under/In - More symbolism to look within. Perhaps one take on the Sidhe Race is a "Race to the Inside". Maybe we are in a race to know ourselves before we die.


The Force Yoda told Luke to use was within.
Well shit oh dear, yeah!

I also really like your thought that we are in a race to know ourselves before we die. I better pick up the pace. :eek:
 

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And as seeming unrelated as things might seem they are all connected.
I haven't delved into a lot of what he covers, but I really liked his notion that we are our own creators, we are the Annunaki, we were the genetic engineers and we have forgotten our past and who we are.
How many times have I uttered that tired phrase "a race with amnesia", maybe that is exactly it.
 

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Map of Hyperborea:

Labyrinth:

Illustration of Jericho in a Farhi Bible (14th century)

Crop Circle:

The Brain as Labyrinth, leading to the Pineal Gland:


Ouroboros circling the Tree of Life:

Hyperborea/Ouroboros
Borea - from Greek Boreas, name of the god of the north wind

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM
3.14 is Pi, the center of a circle or Source

Thoughts: All roads lead inward. This realm, to me at least, seems to work in opposites. To exit a place, we have been taught to go outside, but I think what all of the examples above illustrate is that to exit (Exodus) this realm, we must go within.
I need to make a comment on your quote from Exodus. Over the years I have elected to learn the earliest Hebrew alphabet and language, due to a need for one of my books that I am currently writing. In the original Massoretic text, Exodus 3:14, the word hayah, which has been transliterated (translated without being literal) into "I AM" is not exactly what the Hebrews meant by that phrase. I am is used as a translation only 13 times in the Hebrew texts, while the most popular translation for that word, by far, is "to become" (233 times). In other words, it is, more correctly, I will be what I will be. This is a primitive root that has a cognate form in both Arabic and Aramaic, and it is beyond a doubt that that is what was originally meant in the text. If we use the Sumerian equivalent (I wrote the first program on the internet to translate English to Sumerian about 15 years ago) we find it equates to E-Ki-E, which can be translated as: e = to raise or rear a child, to sow, and also to rave, to winnow, to measure. While ki'e translates as exit. So we have: I will be he that raises or sows my earthly children, then measures them at the time when they are raved or winnowed, towards their exit (death).
And I would like to commend you upon your entry - very interesting and informative.
 

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I have a O.T. translation question you may be able to answer. If too much derailment, please PM me. Thanks.
Question is: Genesis 1:2 "And the Earth was void and without form....." Can that also be translated as 'and the earth became void and without form'?
I know that little word is translated became many other times in the bible and it would seem to make a world of difference in the meaning if it meant "became" rather than "was". In other words the whole of creation can be summed up in Genesis 1:1-In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Period. Then something happened and the earth BECAME void and without form and the verses that follow are merely a description of the reconstruction of a voided earth.
 

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but I think what all of the examples above illustrate is that to exit (Exodus) this realm, we must go within.
maybe we got lost in there and ended up here? ;-)

contract | Origin and meaning of contract by Online Etymology Dictionary
"to draw into a smaller compass, become smaller, shrink
Know thyself - Wikipedia
"Man, know thyself, and you are going to know the gods"
I Am that I Am - Wikipedia

What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet - Wikipedia


Juliet:

O Romeo, Romeo! wherefore art thou Romeo?
Deny thy father and refuse thy name;
Or, if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love,
And I'll no longer be a Capulet

Romeo:

[Aside] Shall I hear more, or shall I speak at this?

Juliet:

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.

Romeo:

I take thee at thy word:
Call me but love, and I'll be new baptized;
Henceforth I never will be Romeo.



if one gives you a name, whos name is it?
 

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I have a O.T. translation question you may be able to answer. If too much derailment, please PM me. Thanks.
Question is: Genesis 1:2 "And the Earth was void and without form....." Can that also be translated as 'and the earth became void and without form'?
I know that little word is translated became many other times in the bible and it would seem to make a world of difference in the meaning if it meant "became" rather than "was". In other words the whole of creation can be summed up in Genesis 1:1-In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Period. Then something happened and the earth BECAME void and without form and the verses that follow are merely a description of the reconstruction of a voided earth.
I have to agree with your idea - the word is the same one that I translated previously, in the
thread of I am what I am, which should be "I will be what I will become". And you are also correct
in that it appears that there was darkness and vanity, and Elohim changed that. However, there
is a great deal more to this verse.
First, to confirm your idea of became, here is the way that the Hebrew scribes
translate the word hayah:
to become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass
to come into being, become, to arise, appear, come
to become like, to be instituted, be established
to occur, come to pass, be done, be brought about
to be done, be finished, be gone
And, as with any translation of any phrase or word in any language, it helps to see how
the word has been defined and used in other passages. We are lucky in that this word appears
a great many times in the Hebrew Bible, so we have a sound foundation to work from.
Bear in mind that the following are the translations of this word as it was used in
the Hebrew Bible, and the numbers following indicate how many times it was
used with that particular meaning. Two things that you might get from this are 1) there
are many different definitions for nearly all words in the Bible and 2) why the Church fathers
chose the particular word that they did, remains a question that only they can answer, particularly
when they chose a definition that has only been used once or a few times and was nearly
always translated as something very different on many other occasions in the same text.
I would not go too much further after this answer of mine, if you wish to continue to
believe in the literal words of the Bible. I started out as a deacon in the Episcopal Church
years ago, and now I vote agnostic, due to my many researches (I have re-translated over
600 words in the Bible) and the information that I have uncovered, such as the word
Enki, which appears a total of 108 times in the Old Testament, when translated using
the Sumerian lexicon.
Here is the long list:

act(1), administered(1), allotted(1), am(13), appeared(1), apply(1), became(85), became his and lived(1), became(1), become(221), becomes(13), becoming(1), been(90), been done(2), befall(1), befallen(2), being(7), belong(9), belonged(4), belongs(2), brought(1), came(358), came into being(1), came expressly(1), cause(1), caused(1), come(86), come to pass(3), comes(2), comes to pass(1), committed(1), consists(1), continue(6), continued(3), correspond(1), decided(1), done(4), done(1), ended(13), endure(3), event(1), exhausted(1), existed(3), exists(2), extend(3), extended(3), fall(4), fallen(1), fared(1), fell(1), follow(1), followed(1), form(1), gave(1), give(1), go(4), gone(1), grown(1), had(80), had not been(2), had been(1), had belonged(1), had...been(2), happen(11), happened(48), happens(4), has(19), has become(1), has had(1), have(90), have become(6), have...place(1), having(2), held(1), help*(1), indeed(1), keep(1), lasted(1), lasts(1), lay(2), left(2), lies(1), lived(1), lives(1), made(3), marry(4), marrying(1), numbered(1), occur(7), occurred(3), occurs(3), own(3), placed(1), possessed(1), present(1), pressed(1), qualify(2), ran(1), reach(3), reached(1), realized(1), receive(1), received(1), remain(9), remain*(1), remained(6), remained(1), remains(1), rest(1), rested(1), resulted(1), running(1), seemed(1), serve(3), show(1), sold(1), surely become(1), surely come(1), surely come to pass(1), sustains(1), take(1), take place(3), taken(1), taken place(1), time(1), took place(4), turn(1), turn*(1), turned(4), use(1), used(3), waited(1), wear(1), went(1).

Now, spoiler alert, if you wish to continue further, or anyone else does who is reading this,
please reconsider if you have very strong attachments to the idea that the words in the
Bible are one hundred percent inspired, etc. I warned you.

Genesis 1:2
Here is a word by word translation, and not transliteration, as is done in the King James Version, of the words in that verse. This is again from the original
Hebrew text. Following some words are the numbers of times that various
translations appear in the text of the Bible.

And became the land (land 1543, earth 712, country 140 ) with darkness and vanity, (vain 4, vanity 4, confusion 3, without form 2, wilderness 2, nought 2, nothing 1, empty place 1, waste 1; blast 4, anger 1 ) the spirit (Spirit or spirit 232, wind 92, breath 27,) over (above = 43, against=536, over = 538) the face ( before = 868, face = 272, faces = 49, front = 86 ) of God (gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used of the supreme God; ) grew soft the water (not waters).

The word defined as Spirit is very interesting. The original Hebrew gives it as
Resh Waw Hhets, pronounced Ruach, and conventionally defined as: "Wind: Also the wind of man or god, the breath. [Hebrew and Aramaic]: spirit, wind, breath, side, mind, blast, vain, air, anger, cool, courage, space, enlargement ."

In Sumerian, RWHh is u-i/n-r
u = "earth"
in = "sector"
ra = " (to be) clear"


Another interesting term is the one defined in the English translation as
"moved" or moved upon the waters. The Hebrew scholars define the original term as : to grow soft, relax, but never "to move."
It is found in Strongs concordance of the Hebrew as his number 7363 , pronounced rachaph, and defined as: shake 1, move 1, flutter 1. Where they got this from "to grow soft", I have no idea.
This word only appears 3 times in the entire Hebrew Bible, and each time it is defined differently in the English (King James) versions.
The Hebrew consonants: Resh-Hhets-Pey are equal to A-U-R in Sumerian.
And aur is defined as: a'ur = "hidden place; armpit, limbs"


We could rephrase this as "And the land became with darkness and vanity, and against the spirit of God's face the water grew soft (calmed). "

Phrased in this form, it almost seems as if previously there was a great deal of matter or material upon the Earth, and at some point after this time, the land became dark, and vanity (the sense of needing nothing more to exist) was the norm, until the gods or God, through the powers of spirit, caused the water to calm.

By using the help of the Sumerian translation of just two root words, we have
the following, perhaps: "And the land became with darkness and vanity; over this, Elohim, of the Earth sector, cleared the water from its hidden place."
Or in other words, Elohim took a dark land and provided water by opening
up the hidden springs and wells that contained all the water of the Earth.

So, yes, to answer all unanswered questions, these do seem to be very extreme translations, and may conflict with everything you know or wish to know. I will say, in my defense, that I have been doing this for fifteen years, that I created the first on-line translator of English to Sumerian, and that, unlike Sitchin, my translations can be found and confirmed in the online dictionary of the University of Pennsylvania and the site of Oxford University. My translations are in Sumerian, and his, according to him, were in Akkadian, which is not the same thing at all.
 

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hey Jim Duyer,

yes even with a minor investigation into the root words of the bible we see a much different picture than what the kings english shows us. however, the KJV made a business plan out of it and for this reason I think the KJV should not be dismissed as a corruption but rather accepted as instruction on a more worldly level.

are you an Oxford English specialist also? familiar at all with strict adherence to styles etc. vs corruptions of the text? Its all code IMO but english is the most precise programming language in some ways while at the same time the most corrupt.

hope to see you chime in often around here!
 

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hey Jim Duyer,

yes even with a minor investigation into the root words of the bible we see a much different picture than what the kings english shows us. however, the KJV made a business plan out of it and for this reason I think the KJV should not be dismissed as a corruption but rather accepted as instruction on a more worldly level.

are you an Oxford English specialist also? familiar at all with strict adherence to styles etc. vs corruptions of the text? Its all code IMO but english is the most precise programming language in some ways while at the same time the most corrupt.

hope to see you chime in often around here!

Thanks for the kind words. I am happy to find a site that has actually offered me information, and taught me a few things, as opposed to the normal pedestrian sites. Yes, I also am very familiar with Anglo-Saxon, and I have translated, or re-translated all of the poems from the 6th and 7th centuries. None of them are as we have been told, and most are extremely interesting. I also have a new translation of the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem that I will be putting up soon. What amazes me is that these people were much cleverer than we are today. Yesterday I translated a sign carved into a piece of rock at Gobekli Tepi, about 9600 BC. It translates very easily into Sumerian, of the oldest form, and it says "flood." I believe that I can prove beyond doubt that the people of Gobekli moved eastward and some became the Sumerians about 5000 BC, BUT that most of their map making and astronomical knowledge came from Western and Northern Europe. I have not mentioned this previously but I have a very accurate map of the complete north Polar region - done five thousand years ago, for example. I will post more when I can - I'm working on two books at the same time, and nearing publication. Jim
 

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Thank you very much, Jim Duyer for your translation and explanation. One last question regarding that verse tying in also with Hyperborea: could the translation "made soft the waters" also refer to a melting of ice/snow? If the land was with darkness and blast (the word was translated as many times into "blast" as it was translated "vanity" according to your numbers) and then "made soft", could that not also mean that the earth was blasted by a comet (or something) and became a frozen waste land which then was "made soft"/melted in order to begin the reparation/restoration work mentioned in the following verses?

Such a translation would also fit into what we know of our geological history (or what we think we know). According to geologists, our planet was hit sometime in the past by a comet/meteor/another planet or something, wiping out the dinosaurs and creating an ice age. After that, humans (in one form or another) began to be on the earth.

As the OP pointed out, Hyperborea has BOR as its Greek root referring to Bor, the god of the North wind. "Hyper" is also from the Greek meaning extreme, excessive, exaggerated. So, an extreme North wind would be a place of extreme cold, one would assume.
 

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Yes, whitewave, you are correct in both your statements. One of the several acceptable translations for those words is the melting or made soft, and the blast is also correct. I had not put this together in the way that you have, but I have to say that your theory seems solid. For further research look up the Herodotus comments on Hyperborea, especially in regard to Albian who was an emissary from Hyperborea and visited the Greeks of Athens during the first Olympiads, around 550-600 BC if my memory serves me right. He was said to be a healer, and to know a cure for the plague! All of this points to a civilization of very high potential located in Hyperborea. Albian and his fellow Hyperboreans later became members of the Scythian tribes, to add further interest to the story. I also researched the texts from the Byzantines in Constantinople, and the Muslim scholars, who were very intelligent and knew some things that were never shared by either the Greeks or Romans. By the way - don't get thrown off by Herodotus's description that Albian flew around on an arrow - the Celts of that day were known to use an arrow in order to introduce one Druid to another, and by showing the arrow you would be provided food and an escort through the rougher territories - so in this case the arrow is a lost truth buried by modern scholars as an alagorical symbol of magic or wizardry or some such nonsense.
 

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5:19 mentions the Sidhe race. This vid pulls together a lot of seemingly unrelated info.

Thanks for the channel

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