Sodom and Gomorrah are at the bottom of the Dead Sea

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For centuries people knew exactly where Sodom and Gomorrah once stood. The ruins of the Biblical cities were apparently still visible as late as 1650. Only with the approach of the 19th century did we conveniently forget where to look for the famous cities of sin. Their sins we could debate at a later date, but for right now let us point our ever-blind and ignorant archaeologists in the right direction. Before we get into the grid coordinates, let's see what the official version says.

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Wikipedia, "There are other stories and historical names which bear a resemblance to the biblical stories of Sodom and Gomorrah. Some possible natural explanations for the events described have been proposed, but no widely accepted or strongly verified sites for the cities have been found. Of the five "cities of the plain", only Bela, modern-day Zoara, is securely identified, and it remained a settlement long after the biblical period." There is a whole bunch of additional worthless information in the wiki article, none of which points to the obvious. It starts to look, and sound like our overzealous archaeologists are working hard at not finding anything on purpose.

We have 5 cities which were allegedly punished by God. According to the Torah, the kingdoms of Sodom and Gomorrah were allied with the cities of Admah, Zeboim, and Bela. These five cities, also known as the "cities of the plain", were situated on the Jordan River plain in the southern region of the land of Canaan.

Divine judgment by God was passed upon Sodom and Gomorrah and two neighboring cities, which were completely consumed by fire and brimstone. Neighboring Bela was the only city to be spared.
  • Sodom - destroyed
  • Gomorrah - destroyed
  • Admah - destroyed
  • Zeboim - destroyed
  • Bela - spared
As can be seen, 4 cities were destroyed, and neighboring Bela was spared. Bela was allegedly identified as modern-day Zoara. I think they deliberately placed Bela/Zoara at a wrong location, for Zoara is definitely not a neighboring city to the destroyed Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboim. These 4 are still at large, and some even question their existence in first place.

Sodom and Gomorrah
+ neighboring Admah and Zeboim
The below presented maps cover years 1540 - 1753. Supposedly these 4 cities were destroyed between 2000 BC and 1900 BC (according the Biblical Timeline). I find it tremendously suspicious that the memory of their exact location made it through 3,750 years of history, including the periods below, but then somehow got lost.
  • Bronze Age
  • Iron Age
  • Ancient History
  • Classical Antiquity
  • Post-Classical Antiquity
  • Middle Ages
  • Early Modern Period
Yup, people knew where Sodom and Gomorrah were located all the way untill the late modern period which began approximately in the mid-18th century. The knowledge was mysteriously lost when book printing, map making and the Age of Discovery were in full swing.

KD: I do not believe for a second that there were thousands of years between the destruction of Sodom and Gomorra, and the first of the maps below. If I was to guess the time frame, I'd go with 1,000 AD -1,400 AD on the conventional time scale.

The Maps
We will take a look at a couple of specific map cutouts first. They provide us with some interesting information.

1586
Historical map of Israel, Canaan with the Wanderings of Abraham.
Printed around 1595 in Antwerp
1586-Abrahami Patriarchae Peregrinatio Et Vita_1.jpg

1586-Abrahami Patriarchae Peregrinatio Et Vita.jpg

Abrahami Patriarchae Peregrinatio Et Vita
Abrahami Patriarchae Peregrinatio Et Vita
Note: on the above Ortelius map with 1586 contents we can see that the Dead Sea does not exist yet. The river Jordan is flowing freely through "plains" which will eventually become the Dead Sea.

1651
Canaan - Jerusalem
1651 - Lake of Sodom_1.jpg

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1720
Two maps on one page.
A modern 1720 map and an ancient map of the Holy Land.

1720 - Terre Sainte moderne (with) Descriptio acurata Terrae Promissae.jpg
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  • here was Sodom, and its remains could be seen until 1650
  • here was Gomorrah
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  • This sea, which is surrounded by high mountains, is 25 leagues long, and five broad, filled with black bitumen (asphalt) and tips, and its edges covered with a species of talc or niter.
  • Arabs crossed the Dead Sea on their Camels.
dead_sea_1.jpg

Essentially what we get is the sea with no water. Apparently, it was claimed that the dead Sea was filled with asphalt and Arabs rode their camels to travel across the Dead Sea.

Wiki: These five cities, also known as the "cities of the plain", were situated on the Jordan River plain in the southern region of the land of Canaan.
  • In geography, a plain is a flat, sweeping landmass that generally does not change much in elevation. Plains occur as lowlands along the bottoms of valleys or on the doorsteps of mountains, as coastal plains, and as plateaus or uplands.
KD: It almost appears that the Dead Sea, was already dead (dried up) back when Sodom, Gomorra, Admah and Zeboim were built. I have no clue why it was paved with asphalt, but that sounds geographically "plain".

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1655
Holy Land
1655 - Terræ Sanctæ L.jpg
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Asphalt Lake | former Salt Lake


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This 1655 map has to be viewed on the source site. It is so detailed, that I am unable to do it justice by pasting cut outs here. It gives as a pretty good idea of where these 4 lost cities once stood.

1692
A depiction of Canaan, by Philip Lea
1692 depiction of Canaan, by Philip Lea_1.jpg

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Maps: 1540 - 1753
All of the below maps contain the cities which are presumably either lost, or have never existed. There is plenty of additional info within the maps pertaining to the topic of this thread. If you are good with translating things, please contribute.

1540 - Terra Sancta XVI Nova Tabula.jpg 1561 - Soria et Terra Santa Nuova Tavola.jpg 1586 - Typus Chorographicus..jpg 1599 - Soria et Terra Santa Nuova Tavola.jpg 1619 - Terra Sancta  quae in Sacris Terra Promissionis olim Palestina.jpg 1629 - Terra Sancta ... Palestina.jpg 1636 - Terra Sancta que in Sacris Terra Promissionis Palestina.jpg 1659 - Terra sancta, sive promissionis.jpg 1727 - Regio Canaan seu Terra promissionis postea Judea vel Palestina naminata hodie Terra San...jpg 1750 - Palaestina in XII Tribus.jpg 1753 - Tabula Geographica Palaestinae.jpg

Source of all the above maps. The link will take you to the search results. Simply pick a year on the left side of the screen and investigate away.

Sulphur Weapons
"Fire and brimstone is an idiomatic expression of referring to God's wrath in the Hebrew Bible. In the Bible, it often appears in reference to the fate of the unfaithful. Brimstone, an archaic term synonymous with sulfur, evokes the acrid odor of sulphur dioxide given off by lightning strikes. Lightning was understood as divine punishment by many ancient religions; the association of sulphur with God's retribution is common in the Bible." - Wikipedia

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"Likewise as it was in the days of Lot - they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built, but on the day when Lot went out from Sodom fire and sulphur rained from heaven and destroyed them all - so will it be on the day when the Son of man is revealed."

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Forbidden Archaeology: Sodom and Gomorrah - Gentlemen in this article think that they found the lost cities. Well, that I'm not so sure of, but they sure did locate millions of balls of sulphur around the Dead Sea. Allegedly this is like 90% pure sulphur which does not exist in this state in nature. This source is not the only one as far as Dead Sea sulphur goes.
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KD: I think that our not-so-lost cities are at the bottom of the today's Dead Sea. Its depth is allegedly 1,000 feet, so I'm not sure how that works. If it used to be a regular dried out salt lake which was covered in asphalt at some point, then where did 300 meters of water come from. May be the entire area got flooded to hide this enormous carnage scene. May be it got flooded because they were unable to destroy everything they wanted to destroy.
  • Or may be because these cities were situated in the land of Canaan. Cynocephali people, including Cynocephalus Saint Christopher were Canaanite.
  • Some food for thought: ...in reference to a possible connection there > Canine - Canaan - Canaanite
Saint Christopher_2.jpg

Zoar - Bela
was here
zoar_bella.jpg

Today's Map
As far as I understand, the asphalt lake did not go below the red line back then.

Where_is_Zoara.jpg

KD summary: I seriously doubt archaeologists want to find these cities. Have they ever looked for those at the bottom of the dead Sea? :unsure:

Update - @esgee1 found an 18 year old article confirming the above:
Michael Sanders and an international team of researchers discovered what appear to be the salt-encrusted remains of ancient settlements on the seabed after several fraught weeks diving in a mini submarine. Mr Sanders, a Briton who is now based in the United States, said yesterday that he was "immensely excited" about the find, and he is already planning a follow-up expedition.

He said: "The evidence cannot be ignored. I predicted there must be something extraordinary there and, lo and behold, there was. What we found matches exactly what the remains of an ancient city might look like."
Soddom and Gomorrah found at bottom of Dead Sea
 
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After wrapping up the tenth season of excavations, he believes they’ve found a “goldmine of ancient monumental structures and artifacts” that suggests the site was a powerful city-state during the Early and Middle Bronze Ages (between 3,500 and 1540 B.C.)
Lol. They found some place they want to present as one of the lost cities :) clever move though.

Considering that the Dead Sea is shrinking and losing water at an alarming rate, whatever is at the bottom will get exposed one day. With Sodom and Gomorrah listed as found, it will easier to officially explain the submerged structures with some BS.
It all hints at a problem that has vexed multiple governments and sparked concerns among researchers, environmentalists and anyone else with an interest in this iconic salt lake, which is woven into the history of Islam, Christianity and Judaism.
Multiple governments should be concerned.

The Dead Sea is dying

I find it funny once again, that our contemporary scientists figured out that the locations of the five cities were at places contradicting common knowledge of the locals 500 years ago. In other words, those who had a chance to observe the remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah in 1500s were lying, according to today’s scholars.

They sure have their hands full.

Fountains of Life Found at the Bottom of the Dead Sea
 

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They looked like they were pretty much in the same area to me but, then again, I am directionally challenged. :)
Supposed to be some legend about fish coming out of the dead sea at the end of the world. Interesting about the fountain of life. Thanks for that link.
 
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Pretty sure there had to be some collateral damages during the bombardment, it’s not like a tactical nuke was used.

They are way off from the locations depicted on the old maps.
The ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah have been discovered southeast of the Dead Sea.
They need to actually dive into the Dead Sea to find where the cities were situated according to the maps. A small remote sub would probably do just as well.

It’s kind of strange when at least 200 years of cartography and multiple map makers of the past tell our contemporary archaeologists where to look, and instead our scholars look anywhere but in those places.
 

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I did a quick google search and found this article about Sodom and Gomorrah being at the bottom of the Dead Sea. I don't know how reliable the site it, but might be of interest to you if you haven't read it. Apparently a researcher by the name of Michael Sanders discovered what appeared to be salt-encrusted remains of settlements on the floor of the Dead Sea while doing a dive via a mini submarine: Soddom and Gomorrah found at bottom of Dead Sea

I found a documentary for sale on Amazon about this Michael Sanders guy: Biblical Mysteries: Sodom and Gomorrah . There are two reviews, one says it's a "good movie", and the other says this guy is a fraud. Okay, so I found this documentary on YouTube as well for free here:


The documentary is hardly conclusive. I recommend watching it on YouTube (and saving your money). But, the guy did find salt encrusted "red mounds" on the bottom of the Dead Sea floor. Certainly need to explore the bottom of the Dead Sea more, and chip away at that salt encrusted mounds and see if there's any ancient buried artifacts.
 
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Great find. This Jonathan Petre made his findings in 2000. Hope he does not come here screaming that his ideas were stolen. I stumbled into Sodom and Gomorrah being present on multiple maps while following up on @asatiger1966's post about the real location of Jerusalem. Done venting.

Well, it's nice to see a little confirmation to the obvious. With so many maps pointing in the same direction, it would be surprising if there were no salt -encrusted structures at the bottom.

The question remains. Why with all the map evidence, and these finding, our archaeologists are not all over the ruins? What powers stop them from presenting the world with these 4 Biblical cities. One would imagine that Vatican would be the first in line of interested institutions. Wouldn't it bring extra credibility to the Bible?
 

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I'm starting to get upset, our history has been stolen from us, somebody, somewhere knows and it's bullshit... They're holding onto because... Power, plain and simple.

Humanity deserves the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

We're holograms? Great, let's figure out how to hack this bitch and create paradise, solve world hunger and expand our world programmatically.

Flat earth? Great, let's figure out if we're in a prison or if we all need to fall down on our knees and hope the Creator listens.

This esoteric knowledge belongs to us all, not a select few.
 

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This 1655 map has to be viewed on the source site. It is so detailed, that I am unable to do it justice by pasting cut outs here. It gives as a pretty good idea of where these 4 lost cities once stood.
This is pretty interesting map. It looks like the dead river valley might have run through Petra at one time but was blocked off.
Eroded back down and then stopped running again due to the water table dropping. Petra: The melted city
Is that a volcanic dome close by?

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Well, that I'm not so sure of, but they sure did locate millions of balls of sulphur around the Dead Sea. Allegedly this is like 90% pure sulphur which does not exist in this state in nature. This source is not the only one as far as Dead Sea sulphur goes.
So they actually found the Brimstone.

We have another example of the Bible being more than a collection of fairy tales.
This is colloquially referred to as the "good book."
Is that because the common people knew the other history books were no good?
It is clear that is has gone through translations, edits, and re-write versions.
Were they unable to make all the changes they wanted, because they would never be able to destroy all of the originals?
Or may be because these cities were situated in the land of Canaan. Cynocephali people, including Cynocephalus Saint Christopher were Canaanite.
  • Some food for thought: ...in reference to a possible connection there > Canine - Canaan - Canaanite
Wikipedia: In the Book of Joshua, Canaanites are included in a list of nations to exterminate, and later described as a group which the Israelites had annihilated.

from Leviticus
If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death. And you are also to kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal to mate with it, you must kill both the woman and the animal. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.…

Seems pretty odd to me that you have to kill the innocent beast.
No chances taken with the possibility of a hybrid showing up in 9 months.
 

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I did a quick google search and found this article about Sodom and Gomorrah being at the bottom of the Dead Sea. I don't know how reliable the site it, but might be of interest to you if you haven't read it. Apparently a researcher by the name of Michael Sanders discovered what appeared to be salt-encrusted remains of settlements on the floor of the Dead Sea while doing a dive via a mini submarine: Soddom and Gomorrah found at bottom of Dead Sea

I found a documentary for sale on Amazon about this Michael Sanders guy: Biblical Mysteries: Sodom and Gomorrah . There are two reviews, one says it's a "good movie", and the other says this guy is a fraud. Okay, so I found this documentary on YouTube as well for free here:


The documentary is hardly conclusive. I recommend watching it on YouTube (and saving your money). But, the guy did find salt encrusted "red mounds" on the bottom of the Dead Sea floor. Certainly need to explore the bottom of the Dead Sea more, and chip away at that salt encrusted mounds and see if there's any ancient buried artifacts.

Interesting video. What it brought up to me was the fact that governments are in cahoots to keep regular "joe"s" out of the knowing. I almost think the NWO or "one world governemnt" or whatever they want to refer to it, is and has been in full swing now, for quite some time. Almost as if they play their war games, ect. just as an excuse to scare people away from learning history. It is clear in this video that Isreal and Jordan are playing the "war game" to keep them from discovering something. Thing is, this was in 2000??? So what follow up from it now? 18 years later? I'm sure I'm preacing to the choir, but it does get frustrating doesn't it? Just listening to this video about them taking some tiny submarine along the dead sea floor causing the armies of BOTH countries to get their panties in a bunch is ridiculous. That to me is very much a part of this stolen history. The lies and rhetoric they use today as a coverup.
 
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