Request: South American Philippopolis-city. Any info?

KorbenDallas

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This investigative request is originated based on the below thread:
The city of Philippopolis can be observed on this 1597 Map of the Antarctic region. To be exact the city is located on the southern coast of South America.
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  • Two maps on one sheet of the Straits of Magellan and the unknown Southern Continent. Chica sive Patagoniun Regio depicts the Magellan strait and Australis Terre Pars [Tierra del Fuego], while the south polar view shows Terra Australis with Beach, Lucach and Maletur. Nova Guinea separated from Terra Australis. Includes the Spanish town of "Philippopolis" and "C. della Victoria" is noted at the point where Magellan entered the Pacific.
Needed: Any information pertaining to this 1597 South American city of Philippopolis.
 

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The Spanish Lake - OAPEN

If you go to page 277 in here it suggests that Philippopolis may be more commonly known as Sarmiento. It may have been a colony, set up by Magellan.

Edit - it appears that Sarmiento set up the colony at Philippopolis as opposed to being an alternative name. There are loose references to giants, gold, a dream of a city, a reality of wretched colonists, an Indian called Tupac. Not much detail but plenty of fill around the edges.
 
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Appreciate the PDF. The reading is definitely interesting. Unfortunately brings not too much light on this Philippopolis.

Wondering what Philip this city was named after.
 

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The old standby mentions a Philip-stadt on the straights.
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Captain Thomas Candish following Sir Francis Drake eight years after, found near a Creek within the City Philip-stadt, built there by the Spaniards, to secure the Pas∣sage out of the Northern to the Southern Ocean for themselves; to which purpose they held four hundred Men in Garrison in the said City, which lying near a plea∣sant Wood, was defended by four Bulwarks, each fortifi'd with a Brass Gun: But the Spaniards not being able to endure the Cold, nor get in their Harvest, which was continually spoil'd by the Natives, were so pinch'd with Hunger, that after three years stay many of them dy'd in their Houses, which caus'd a filthy Stink, and consequently a vile Distemper, not unlike the Small-pox; at last twenty three of them, amongst whom were two Women, judg'd it convenient to bury their great Guns, and march away with their Musquets; a whole Year they travell'd in great want, feeding on the Leaves of Trees, wild Roots, and Fowls which they now and then kill'd; at last they resolv'd to travel by Land to Rio de la Plata, but never any news was heard what became of them, onely one Spaniard, call'd Ferdi∣nand, being stray'd from the rest, was taken by Candish, to whom he gave the fore∣mention'd Relation. Candish entring Philip-stadt, found a Gibbet, on which hung a Malefactor in Chains, a Church, the Houses full of famish'd Bodies, and four Brass Guns, which he digg'd out of the Ground. From hence he ran to a fresh∣water River (which disembogues into the Straights,) whose Banks are inhabited by cruel Cannibals, and the Countrey all about plain Pasture Grounds, whereas most part of the Shore in the Straights is very mountainous. Candish Landing, found Spanish Knives and Stilletto's amongst the Man-eaters, and lay a whole Moneth at Anchor in the western Mouth of Magellanica, by reason of great Storms, feeding on Mussles, Cockles, and Fowl; and from thence Sail'd about the World, returning home at last with a Booty of twenty Tun of Gold.
 

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This investigative request is originated based on the below thread:
The city of Philippopolis can be observed on this 1597 Map of the Antarctic region. To be exact the city is located on the southern coast of South America.
Geographical description:
  • Two maps on one sheet of the Straits of Magellan and the unknown Southern Continent. Chica sive Patagoniun Regio depicts the Magellan strait and Australis Terre Pars [Tierra del Fuego], while the south polar view shows Terra Australis with Beach, Lucach and Maletur. Nova Guinea separated from Terra Australis. Includes the Spanish town of "Philippopolis" and "C. della Victoria" is noted at the point where Magellan entered the Pacific.
Needed: Any information pertaining to this 1597 South American city of Philippopolis.
On the left of the map, where it says Pata, is the area where the Patagonian Giants were reported by the early Spanish explorers. There are some drawings of them still up on Wiki if I am not mistaken. A Greek name in South America is a bit strange. Magellan was Portuguese, but perhaps one of his crew was from Bulgaria, where the ancient Thracian city of Philippopolis was located. Greeks often crewed on the ships of other countries, as did the Basque; both for the simple reason that they were avid sailors by birth. Portuguese probably did not get along well with the Basque sailors due to the intense competition in discoveries of the New World (25% of the crew of Columbus's first voyage were Basque, and his Jewish-Converso second wife was Basque, and her father provided Columbus with his ship).
 

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Magellan was Portuguese, but perhaps one of his crew was from Bulgaria, where the ancient Thracian city of Philippopolis was located.
Makes sense to me.
A city named after Phillip II of Macedonia. The father of Alexander who also has cities everywhere.

Alexander depicted in Pompeii circa 1600.

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Under control of the ottoman's.
Were the Turks smoking tobacco in their hookahs prior to 1492?

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Alexander’s father lived almost 2 thousand years prior. Based on the narrative, the naming individual barely had a chance to know who Philip was. It would only make sense if the two were not separated by that long.
 

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