Movie: Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984)

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Title: Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984)

Tagline: George Orwell's Terrifying Vision Comes To The Screen.

Genre: Drama, Science Fiction, Thriller, War

Director: Michael Radford

Cast: John Hurt, Richard Burton, Suzanna Hamilton, Cyril Cusack, Gregor Fisher, James Walker, Andrew Wilde, David Cann, Peter Frye, Roger Lloyd Pack, David Trevena, Anthony Benson, Phyllis Logan, Garry Cooper

Release: 1984-10-10

Runtime: 113

Plot: George Orwell's novel of a totalitarian future society in which a man whose daily work is rewriting history tries to rebel by falling in love.

 
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War is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength


“1984”: A warning, not an instruction manual

Was this a warning? Or was it a clue to how our history has been fabricated and the methods used?
And predictive programming for what was in store for us.


Patriot Act
Affordable Health Care Act
Both double plus good​


you can pull quotes from this forever.


“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
― George Orwell, 1984

“The choice for mankind lies between freedom and happiness and for the great bulk of mankind, happiness is better.”
― George Orwell, 1984


“So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern...Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”
― George Orwell, 1984


“The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.”
― George Orwell, 1984
 

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Jeez, it's like a summary of some of the stuff we've uncovered on this site.

Everyone read this and was concerned that it was going to come to pass, but it was already in effect when this damn thing was written.
I just recently had this realization myself. I was thinking of the title itself and how there is so much emphasis put on the year "1984".
Supposedly, the year comes from the fact the book was written in 1948 and Orwell simply switched the 4 and 8. But after reading the book, why would we still assume that was the actual year the events took place in? Just like the world we live in now. Can anyone really be sure what year it is? I think the book is worth a re-read with all of this in mind and how, even with the truth right in front of us, we are intentionally misled with predetermined options (usually two with an alternative to that) supplied to us.

Look at any major "event" and you will see the conspiracy theory is always available because they know there will be people pushing those theories trying to find the truth which then acts as a soft disclosure mechanism so by the time the truth is certified by the mainstream (Snowden) the unthinking masses will simply say "we already knew that". I think this board and what is uncovered here, however, is very important. The downside that I see is it goes hand in hand with convincing everyone we live in a matrix (not saying we don't) which will make more and more people tune out or become nihilistic. Look how people already don't care about the 4th amendment because they want security. What will they think when they find out it was all a lie anyway? I have always thought it was strange that you spend your childhood being taught about these great men, only to discover in High School how wicked they actually were. To me, that isn't an accident because look at us now. There are so many people that revile the past and a large part of that might have to just come down to how we were deceived as children.

We have been conditioned from an early age to thought police ourselves because of societal pressure and more recently, open surveillance. We also get locked into false paradigms which leaves little to no room for finding truth even when, most of the time, it is blatant and in your face. And once you start seeing things for how they really are, you question why you never saw it in the first place.

This optical illusion really made me start to understand on a deeper level because I finally was at the point I could grasp the implications of how our minds operate.


I notice more and more people seem absent-minded and not at all aware of their surroundings. My current theory (that I didn't full come to on my own but I can't remember who made the original comment) is that there is a schism happening right now. There are those that have put all their attention towards the illusory carnival world on television, which makes them live vicariously and believe the things happening to a character(s) are happening to themselves like in Fahrenheit 451, and then those who are removed from the illusion, either by choice, disinterest, or geographical location. Obviously, isn't that clear cut.
The point is to eventually get everyone on the same page by engaging their interests and nature. We are already at the point where we can't be sure whether we are making decisions or that we are being directed - relating to data mining and what algorithms show us.

The way I see 1984 working currently is that there are two political parties and both sides are being taught to HATE the other. Both sides think they are winning while our already imaginary rights are stripped away. This society feels to me more like a prison system and not how humans would choose to live on their own. We wouldn't live like this if our technology wasn't locked down by the military and large corporations.

Most of the people I talk to want Big Brother to take care of their every need. So, yeah. 1984 is here and has been since before we were born but is always taught as a warning even though the year 1984 has come and gone. As far as we know.
 

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From what I remember reading a couple years ago, he was allegedly part of the Fabian Society, which still owns "George Orwell's" writings to this day. The story goes that he learned of their plans for world communism which would be accomplished through social engineering and wanted to expose them. Thus, 1984.

I think that's just another clever partial truth. The entire project was for programming, conditioning, social engineering, etc. Another book written by committee, delivered by another character from "history". These stories are frameworks for our minds to operate within. Truth is stranger than fiction because truth operates outside the framework.
 

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The only movie Bio on Orwell was a BBC docudrama for .....friggin sake - TV! Read half of this 1984: The masterpiece that killed George Orwell. There is big screen drama oozing out of every pore.

How Orwell has not been lionized in an Oscar winning moving about him, the book and times then and now (as they forecast it then) is the big conspiracy.

Fading Johnny Depp is just now old enough to play Orwell during his dying and triumphant last days. Just the ticket Depp needs. Tim Burton stay away.

"Jumping the Shark" is where a TV series does something really lunatic and cringe worthy to get enough ratings to stay afloat a few more episodes.

In this case "Hollywood" not doing a major big screen Bio of Orwell is like "Cloaking the Chloroform" since a decent film which would be very likely, would reveal the current surveillance state for what it is - a wad of chloroform soaked tissue right under our noses.

God forbid Orwell gets an Oscar. That would be the ruin of it all.

 
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