Movie: Is Genesis History? (2017)

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Fascinating. Eating pigs is forbidden in the OT. Maybe they knew this was cannibalism.
Interesting, so under this thought process we could be:

4 “ ‘Some animals only chew the cud. Some only have hooves that are separated in two. You must not eat those animals. Camels chew the cud. But their hooves are not separated in two. So they are “unclean” for you. 5 Rock badgers chew the cud. But their hooves are not separated in two. So they are “unclean” for you. 6 Rabbits chew the cud. But their hooves are not separated in two. So they are “unclean” for you. 7 Pigs have hooves that are separated completely in two. But they do not chew the cud. So they are “unclean” for you. 8 You must not eat the meat of those animals. You must not even touch their dead bodies. They are “unclean” for you.

9 “ ‘Many creatures live in the water of the oceans and streams. You can eat all those that have fins and scales. 10 Treat as “unclean” all the creatures in the oceans or streams that do not have fins and scales. That includes all those that move together in groups and all those that do not. 11 Treat them as “unclean.” Do not eat their meat. Treat their dead bodies as “unclean.” 12 Regard as “unclean” everything that lives in the water that does not have fins and scales.

13 “ ‘Here are the birds you must treat as “unclean.” Do not eat them because they are “unclean.” The birds include eagles, vultures and black vultures. 14 They include red kites and all kinds of black kites. 15 They include all kinds of ravens. 16 They include horned owls, screech owls, gulls and all kinds of hawks. 17 They include little owls, cormorants and great owls. 18 They include white owls, desert owls and ospreys. 19 They also include storks, hoopoes, bats and all kinds of herons.

20 “ ‘Treat as “unclean” every flying insect that walks on all fours. 21 But you can eat some flying insects that walk on all fours. Their legs have joints so they can hop on the ground. 22 Here are the insects you can eat. You can eat all kinds of locusts, katydids, crickets and grasshoppers. 23 Treat as “unclean” every other creature with wings and four legs.

26 “ ‘Suppose an animal has hooves that are not separated completely in two. Or suppose an animal does not chew the cud. Then these animals are “unclean” for you. If you touch the dead body of any of them, you will be “unclean.” 27 Many animals walk on all fours. But those that walk on their paws are “unclean” for you. Anyone who touches their dead bodies will be “unclean” until evening. 28 If a person picks up their dead bodies, that person must wash their clothes. They will be “unclean” until evening. These animals are “unclean” for you.

29 “ ‘Many animals move along the ground. Here are the ones that are “unclean” for you. They include weasels, rats and all kinds of large lizards. 30 They also include geckos, monitor lizards, wall lizards, skinks and chameleons. 31 These are the animals that move around on the ground that are “unclean” for you. If you touch their dead bodies, you will be “unclean” until evening. 32 Suppose one of them dies and falls on something. Then that thing will be “unclean.” It does not matter what it is used for. It does not matter whether it is made out of wood, cloth, hide or rough cloth. Put it in water. It will be “unclean” until evening. After that, it will be “clean.” 33 Suppose one of these animals falls into a clay pot. Then everything in the pot will be “unclean.” You must break the pot. 34 Any food that could be eaten but has water on it that came from that pot is “unclean.” And any liquid that could be drunk from it is “unclean.” 35 Anything that the dead body of one of these animals falls on becomes “unclean.” If it is an oven or cooking pot, break it. It is “unclean.” And you must consider it “unclean.” 36 But a spring or a well for collecting water remains “clean.” That is true even if the dead body of one of these animals falls into it. But anyone who touches the dead body is not “clean.” 37 If the dead body falls on any seeds that have not been planted yet, the seeds remain “clean.” 38 But suppose water has already been put on the seeds. And suppose the dead body falls on them. Then they are “unclean” for you.
 
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I've been meaning to expand on an idea that came to me recently and here is a good place to put it.

The pig/chimp theory is such a good one, but scientists fail in their interpretation due to their indoctrination I think (as always).

The arguments against are all due to their assuming Darwinian evolution is a fact. A major world-view failing there, yet again.

However, the pig/chimp theory seems to go against religion theory too with man created in the elohims' image.

I have an idea that could tie the two together. I posted on my forum about a PS4 game called Horizon Zero Dawn. This game is super polished and the story line so deep and provocative I think it is perhaps telling us a truth through a computer game. It is basically set 1000 years in the future I think and our world from 2066 is their ancient world which died completely in a wipe-out extinction event. They don't recognize the ruined and half petrified buildings which are now mostly underground in "cave systems".

An artificial intelligence called Gaia was made in preparation for this event and after the cataclysm, started to reseed the earth and humanity by growing a very small number of them in pods like we've seen above. The holograms in these facilities, now under the earth, taught the children basic knowledge. It couldn't teach them all the advancements of the previous age due to a system failure (part of the story I won't go into here). So when the food ran out the children were released into the new earth to look after themselves. They then formed primitive tribal societies.

One of the main characters is the voice of the black fellow who played the Colonel in the TV series Fringe (which I think is another reveal).

Anyway, the Hades program was designed to come online at the end of the new cycle to kill everything so yet another age can come about, but it was activated way too early and tried to kill everything, giving our protagonist something to fight.

Now, how it could tie into the pig/chimp theory is what if "the father" of creation, Yahuah (Yah-hoo-ah, not God or "Gadre-el" more commonly known as Satan) or a subsequent artificial intelligence didn't have the original material to build an original human being. It had the blueprint, but not the material due to the wipe-out. It knew that a chimp (or more likely Bigfoot) and a pig could be mashed together with a bit of splicing here and there to make an original human blueprint. Not 100% accurate obviously, but close enough.

This is why we have hair on our bodies for example (which I think the original human didn't have), and animal tendencies. It could also be the reason for the supernatural intervention which created the religions to put us on a human path of civilization and not a retrograde degenerate one of the animal kingdom. Not all races are the same either. I think there is a higher likelihood of the black African race reverting back to the animal genes than other races.

This independent documentary below on Liberia is the best I have ever seen on Africa (although not all of Africa is the same). It truly gave me hope. I honestly thought Africa would be trapped here forever, never ever graduating, never ever becoming truly human, never again to be with or become the father. However, Africa's great salvation lies with Christianity. If Christ is to incarnate a second time I think there will be more than one incarnation and it will be in Africa as a negro. Once the white and yellow races are gone, they will have no caretakers to keep them on the right path of trust and civilization. It will require massive and direct supernatural intervention to bring them to the father (and probably genetic tinkering with the fetus by the grey robots).


Very important to note in the video on the conversion of "General Butt Naked" (33:00 min). Direct supernatural intervention changed a warlord cannibal into an evangelical Christian. This is the future for Africa on a massive scale. They won't be left behind.

At 17:50 min that woman reminds me of homo erectus or something the evolutionists dig up claiming to find a missing link.

At 4:00 min the reporter hears gun shots and says that is the sound of death, but the locals say it is "the sound of music to us". They love living like an animal. That tendency is strong. It'll take a lot to graduate them into a human being.

Also, the myths of old often describe the gods teaching mankind certain skills like Agriculture, herbs etc. Supposedly in the video below describing the name of Satan is actually God (good video) or Gad, Gadre-el taught mankind in the beginning to look after the flock but turned bad later after being idolised and wanting to be like the father himself. Perhaps this is the artificial intelligence created by the "father" to look after mankind.



Also brings new meaning when Jesus said that you can only get to the father through me. I interpret that to mean only by copying how he acts can you follow your human blueprint fully and not revert to your animal genes like our Liberian chums.

Also, the reason I say it is more likely bigfoot than a chimp as part of the human genome is the analysis of supposed Sasquatch hair. The scientist said it was exactly one half human on the maternal side. So did bigfoot take after humans or the other way round. I think bigfoot DNA was taken to make humans.
Bigfoot Is Part Human, and Here Are the DNA Tests to Prove It, Claims Woman

Llyod Pye's famous presentation shows genetic tampering at 1 hour 18 mins in roughly.

Over 4000 genetic mistakes in the human genome and only one in the animal kingdom? The AI program is NOT an expert on creation lol. Probably because that was not the original purpose of its creation. The father created Gadre-el to look after and teach mankind, not create humans and the Sun from scratch after an epic extinction event.

So in a nutshell, in this theory we may not be from Adam at all, but an Adam simulacrum which, with supernatural (civilizing) help, can complete the human experiment that the earth was designed for, and graduate leaving the womb and being on the right hand of the father (the original intention).

Also I think the Koran mentions that Adam was 300 foot tall. That is definitely an ancient human lol.

So with some serious catastrophic failings, humans got wiped and the AI Gadre-el had to create everything artificially again with animal genes, including an artificial sulfur lamp, aka the Sun, and the glass sky incubator. Not the greatest system as the Earth has expanded greatly since the middle ages, but we are still here and the Earth does seem to be stable nowadays.

There is also the great German video on the Urzeit code, which has a place somewhere for sure.

It's basically a super charged "old" earth creates giant ancient organisms from modern species. Scientists recreated it in the lab.

"Gad" as an artificial intelligence reminds me of a Glitch in the Matrix post on Reddit I read a few years back which I can't find now. A young man from Alaska was fishing I think and moored on a tiny isolated island and just lay sun bathing on the beach for a while. A "person" appeared before him and told him it was God and to ask it any question. He was too dumbstruck to think properly and asked it if there were any insects in his world. he said no and disappeared. The interesting part was, this person appeared as an android type being, like an artificial entity. I thought, does God need a machine vessel to appear on earth? How interesting. Makes more sense if Gad is AI.
Thanks for this excellent post. Much food for thought.

It reminded me of the 1000 year age-cycles in Zoroastrianism: The Calendar Conundrum

It seems to be implied that at the start of every 1000 year cycle a highly developed entity incarnates into the world to jumpstart and frame the spiritual and societal process of that given age, preceded by a catacylsm. Jesus would be around 900-1000 years ago by now.

The tradition of the coming Saviours, thus triplicated, is set in a framework of cosmic history, whereby "limited time" was identified with a "world year" divided into periods of 1000 years each. [...] There are, however, grounds for thinking that the original figure was rather 6ooo years,as a figure which was increased to 9,000 or 12,000 as scholastics elaborated the scheme. Certainly it is only within the last 6ooo years that any events are represented as taking place upon this earth. [...] At the end of the third period the prophet is born in the getig state, [...] This is a tradition, widely attested among different peoples of the world, that there had once been a golden age on earth, from which pinnacle of happiness and wellbeing mankind had thereafter steadily descended, to reach the troubles and sorrows of the present age. [...]| No doubt, however, a prophetic literature existed earlier among the pagan Iranians which embodied the pessimistic tradition of a decline and fail-a tradition that embraced the legend of the golden age of Yima; and such is the tenacity of ancient Iran that in time Zoroastrian priests evolved a new prophetic literature of their own, in which the two world-views, pessimistic and optimistic, were reconciled in a pattern that repeated itself every thousand years during the fourth period of the world-year.
Your post also made me think about the Zoroastrian cosmology:

Unlike in Hinduism which explains the creation as the play of God, in Zoroastrian world view creation is part of a grand plan orchestrated by God to deal with the problem of evil.
The evil AI would thus be a program invented to make apparent the evil in humans, amplifying it, giving it an opportunity to surface, and be dealt with. This is supported by the observation that evil always feeds on positivity, and thus, is devoid of any action or active principle itself. It is merely a reflection, and if there was no evil in ourselves being touched by this AI, it wouldn't exist.

In the Zoroastrian grand scheme of things, we seem to be somewhere in the last 3000 years, but I haven't looked into where we are right now exactly.

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So I think I've figured out a possible explanations as to where we stand in this grand calender and great scheme that started with the physical genesis, around 5,000 years ago.

There are three accepted opionions on the birth date of Zoroaster: 1,800 BC, 1,000 BC, and 500 BC. I think it is more or less exactly 1,000 BC, which means that in the above calender, thousand years later the first World Saviour appears, which is basically known as Jesus Christ today. According to the revised chronology, this would mean Zoroaster lived around 1,900 years ago.

It also means we are now approaching the year 10,970 in the Zoroastrian calendar, which means a coming catacylsm is imminent, as well as the appearance of a new spiritual teacher, and a global movement towards wisdom, love, truth, and harmony. If Jesus lived around 800-1000 years ago, the only question is how many decades we are away from the next 1000 year cycle.

This is also in line with the Jainist cosmology, which states that we live in the second last age before the times end.

It means we are around 1,000-1,200 years away from the last judgment. The resurrection of the dead probably means that all those pure souls who have already left the game due to having graduated from the influence of evil, will join again for the final show.

The PTB knows that something world shaking will happen within our life time, my current guess is that the next cataclysm is scheduled for around 2040-2050. You can bet that their number one priority right now is to build the most epic underground tunnel and bunker network ever imagined, as well as keeping socieites in constant stress, struggle, and surivival mode to keep them from waking up after the cataclysm.
 
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The PTB knows that something world shaking will happen within our life time, my current guess is that the next cataclysm is scheduled for around 2040-2050
This is the prophesized timeframe when we can expect the arrival of "AGI" - artificial general intelligence. AGI would be able to do anything that humans can do, but better. Experts mostly agree that if AGI is there, it will only been short time until the rising of ASI - artificial super intelligence.

Ok, two more options: we see AGI much earlier (what I personally believe) or its already there for a while now, preparing something quietly or already doing crazy things which we probably will never understand 🧐

An ASI would be able to improve itself with digital speed and therefor be right away completely incomprehensible for us. Renowned researchers like Nick Bostrom have hard times figuring out what 'goals' to implement best, so that humanity have a reasonable chance of survival. I have no doubt that an technological entity with an IQ of 1 million will be recognized as a god - and in fact the first churches of this style are already there ("Way of the future").

Of course, nobody is asking us people if we are willing or eager to take the 2nd place or, a bit more dramatic, face the risk of extermination, because, hm, we are maybe not required then anymore. For nothing. On the other hand: we humans usually don't differentiate between black and dark brown ants before we wipe them from our kitchen table, so I doubt an ASI would differentiate between the 'haves' and the 'have-nots', too. But are this good news whatsoever? Finally we humans might experience ultimate egalité - when all of us were gone.

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Sorry for the doomsday attitude. I am personally an optimist, so I doubt we get exterminated to soon by AI. We will find other ways :p And apologies in case I missed the historic aspect this time, and therefor derailed the OP.

But: AI will affect the way even we here do our research. AI can do bizarre things, like predicting the exact percentage of people suffering from obesity - by analyzing urban aerial fotos. Stuff like that. Or think of the ever-changing yt recommendation engine, which gets stickier all the time.

So, back to history finally: what if someone manages to teach an AI the logic of identifying logic inconsistencies in our written heritage, in all of it?
 
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It means we are around 1,000-1,200 years away from the last judgment. The resurrection of the dead probably means that all those pure souls who have already left the game due to having graduated from the influence of evil, will join again for the final show.
Do you think those people could be the 144,000?
 

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This is why we have hair on our bodies for example (which I think the original human didn't have), and animal tendencies. It could also be the reason for the supernatural intervention which created the religions to put us on a human path of civilization and not a retrograde degenerate one of the animal kingdom. Not all races are the same either. I think there is a higher likelihood of the black African race reverting back to the animal genes than other races.
You mean the hairless black Africans? I find this distinction of yours disappointing as I follow your site....I do overlook a lot of bias but nah.
 

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You mean the hairless black Africans? I find this distinction of yours disappointing as I follow your site....I do overlook a lot of bias but nah.
I think you mean the yellow race, not black. I've seen hairy stubble on a black man's chest. Also Red Indians don't grow beards no? Also, within races such as the white race, a few people don't have much if any body hair at all, and others could be the missing link (such as myself :) ). As a side note, most people here in the midlands of Ireland most definitely look like pigs. I see it everywhere. And I don't mean they are overweight (a few are), just their faces look very pig-like.

It's only an idea, not the truth. I explored a "thought experiment".

In the above idea, Gadre-el re-created all the races from Bigfoot/pig as they were all part of the original blueprint (some more pig than bigfoot and some the other way round). However, that is a pure assumption. One of the very interesting things I've recently noticed in the very old maps from the 1400s and before is that I can only find two races. About three quarters of the world seems to have the "white" race drawn (but some areas are empty of figures) and sub-Saharan Africa below the Atlas mountains until the middle of Africa depicts the "black" race. No blacks or Arabs in Ethiopia, which was a bit of a shock to me as today supposedly they are genetically two-thirds black one third Arab (the white race is most definitely drawn in Ethiopia bizzarely, whereas on the same map on the other side of Africa, the black race is drawn).

And yes there were castles and cities in the negro African part (before someone with a chip on their shoulder starts acting up like a hurt child), just like today in Nigeria there are skyscrapers etc. The world traded then like today I suppose.

I couldn't find the yellow, red or east Indian races at all, although they weren't always drawn in there. This is definitely something to look at when looking at supposed medieval maps and texts. See when the first description or drawing of a certain race is drawn. Might be revealing as to their date of creation... at least in our present cycle.

A project I'd have to put on a back burner. Native American creation legends might give us clues as well. One of them describes God creating them from dust in an underground cave and breathing life into them, whereby they travelled to the surface. It sounds quite biblical I think and also fits Gadre-el as an AI from a previous very high civilization now buried underground.

Another avenue to explore is Richard Shaver's underworld stories, and any underworld story come to think of it. There are supposedly modern versions of it too. I just have this feeling that its all linked somehow.


Another question to ask in the above idea is, if Gad had to recreate humans, where was the father?

I'd guess that the father and all of the Elohim had long left the earth by then or are dead. They didn't survive the extinction event either, or left long before it happened.

You notice in all these sci-fi flicks, the "first" creator is called "the father" just like in the bible.

Another clue is the obvious technological slant of the original translation of the old testament.

The clues are everywhere really.

Whatever the truth, I don't see "human" creation as a simple creationist/evolution argument at all. It is much bigger than that IMO.
 
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I also think the asiatic yellow and Indian red races are later additions. Indian red race claims they escaped total annihilation of their race by migrating here during the destruction of their home planet according to the chronicles of Maya. The asiatic yellow race claims they are from the sun according to Japonic folklore. They are still fighting over this until this day because of origins. Chinese claims they are from the moon, hence the political bipolarism between Japan and China I think. I haven’t looked into Thai, Khmer, Burmese and the vast other branches of the asiatic yellow race. But I guess the latter branches are compromised due to Buddhism except the economically independent tribes within all the Far East landscape (although they are economically forced to technological assimilation and dependency like us here in the West).
 

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Another clue is the obvious technological slant of the original translation of the old testament.
Whatever the truth, I don't see "human" creation as a simple creationist/evolution argument at all. It is much bigger than that IMO.
Interesting videos, WH. The translator (last video) was especially intriguing. There are other "religious" books I've read that seemed to me more like technical manuals or anything other than religious or philosophical. Maybe the ancients combined religious and scientific and didn't make distinctions between the two? The Sephir Yatzirah is another book that I don't think is supposed to be religious. Reads more like an alchemical manual to me.

Many of these "religious" texts are convoluted history and a distortion of the history we have. Who knows what technological advances we've made simply because the texts that remain to us are viewed through a distorted lens? I think some of the movies (like Genesis) try to hint at this. Sort of a soft disclosure.
 

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