Legitimization of chemtrail airplanes and tactics

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I'm surprised no one has posted this yet. This is the former director of the FBI John Brennan (a spooky man in his own right) speaking to the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations). For those who don't know, the CFR is a veritable who's who of corrupt and psychopathic elites, spooks, project Mockingbird "journalists", and CEOs who get together to hash out the plans of TPTB.

There are a few YT videos of this speech out there, but they are poor quality so I will post the speech transcript right off the CIA's website.

Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to collectively as geoengineering—that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change. One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun’s heat, in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.

An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels. The process is also relatively inexpensive—the National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly.


As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. [TMG: Then what the hell are they doing it for?]


On the geopolitical side, the technology’s potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions at the expense of others could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI’s benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And, as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI.


I could go on, and on, and on, but rather than talk about the things that I find fascinating, let me stop here so that Judy and I can have a conversation and then I can take some of your questions. Again, thank you for inviting me back to the Council and thank you for your continued interest in our country’s foreign relations and national security.
As an aside, I will leave a link here to a YT channel that posted the speech. I wanted to leave the link so you can see it on YT's native site. Notice anything interesting? This is the first example of "YT Fact Checking Brigade" adding "corrections" to a particular video. Fucking creepy.

So here we have the former Director of the FBI under Obama addressing the global elites explicitly on the topic of chemtrails (SAI). This is not a hypothetical, this is not a farce, these are not just contrails, this is happening. So much so that the fear from elites is not so much if it will happen, but which countries will oppose their plan of controlling their weather.

From geoengineeringmonitor.org:

Nairobi, Kenya – Under pressure from high-emitting, oil-producing countries, the United Nations Environment Assembly (UNEA) failed to advance a proposal to examine the risks of geoengineering technologies and to consider the need for a stricter governance framework. While many countries at the fourth UNEA meeting in Nairobi this week defended a precautionary approach that would have built upon the agreed moratoria on geoengineering that already exist within the United Nations, a handful of high-emission, oil-producing countries actively blocked any progress. Last January, Switzerland, along with 11 other countries, had presented a proposal for UNEA to assess the status of geoengineering technologies and to consider potential United Nations governance frameworks, particularly for Carbon Dioxide Removal and Solar Radiation Management.​
Gen-Z's favorite "Powerpoint" Presidential hopeful Andrew Yang has a pretty hot take on geoengineering:

Andrew Yang, a longshot Democratic candidate campaigning on a platform of​
universal basic income, Medicare for all, and "human-centered capitalism,"
believes ramping up clean energy use and curbing carbon emissions isn't enough. He wants the US to take the lead on geoengineering — an umbrella term that encompasses a variety of controversial and not-so-controversial techniques to counteract climate change, not just slow it down.​

The term evokes fantastical weather-controlling satellites, giant space mirrors that reflect sunlight, and carbon capture technology that floats around in the atmosphere eating planet-warming carbon. Yang believes these technologies, some of which have yet to be tested in the real world, are far from fantasy.​

In fact, he thinks they're a necessity if we want to combat our unstoppable march towards a warming planet. He also thinks the US needs to start as soon as possible in order to prevent a future war.​
You gotta try pretty hard to come off seeming even more dystopic as an option for President than Trump or any of the established political elite. It goes without saying that pre-presidential race grandstanding is a lot of hot air, but his ideas tend to come off a bit...terrifying.

Yang mentioned his enthusiasm for a giant space mirror that could deflect sunlight back in space — a step beyond seeding the atmosphere with particles to reflect more sunlight, a more commonly cited type of solar geoengineering.​
Sorry, the Simpsons already beat you to it :sneaky:

 

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This is definitely an interesting topic that many in this world are somehow oblivious to still. I've certainly never seen MSM sites such as the weather channel cover any of this stuff.

I scanned through all the posts, and don't think I seen a link to Jim Lee's website and U tube channel. I don't consider Jim Lee to be one of those on the fringe guys that gets into smart dust, nano tech, etc, but he will blow almost anyone's mind that's looking to educate themselves regarding wth is going on globally, or at least what he can prove regarding chemtrails, HAARP, geoengineering, global warming, 5g, the PTB, etc. His website and videos are both excellent.

His website... ClimateViewer News.

No point in posting a a bunch of links to his U tube videos as there's so many, but here's a link to a single video to get anyone started.


Another excellent website below that covers everything pretty well too, yet gets more into the fringe.

Geoengineering Affects You, Your Environment, and Your Loved Ones
 

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don't get me wrong, I'm not a total skeptic, just so used to being outdoors since i was young. seen these trails forming all my life, rainbow clouds too, rainbows around the moon, crazy sunsets.. interested to read up on @trismegistus' info!!
will take a lot of convincing that bright sunsets are caused by anything other than reflection though! We get absolutely bangin skies every evening round my ways ;)









don't get me wrong, I'm not a total skeptic, just so used to being outdoors since i was young. seen these trails forming all my life, rainbow clouds too, rainbows around the moon, crazy sunsets.. interested to read up on @trismegistus' info!!
will take a lot of convincing that bright sunsets are caused by anything other than reflection though! We get absolutely bangin skies every evening round my ways ;)

@trismegistus, great post, a lot of stuff for me to get my eyes stuck into, thanks!

I'm so on the fence on this subject, probably because of posts like this:

thos intese colours are what's called a "SUN SET" it happens once a day usually
"the stark ridging is caused by haarp"... that is pure speculation. who is this person? what do they understand about meteorology?

main reason I don't get on board, especially in the UK (could well be much much different over in USA) is the absolute wild speculation that "i haven't seen that before, it must be a government conspiracy", and i hear it loads... takes away from any actual science and investigations that could be much more credible!
"They" have made searching for information about the spraying much more difficult in recent years.
You are aware that the government has signed into law that testing on Americans is legal.
One of my former companies worked for a retired Air Force General, because we had on occasion jumped out of his very fine airplanes, sometimes the discussions were quite open.

If you live in California you are screwed, sorry, its legal.

Navy 5-Year Warfare testing in California (Oregon, Washington) includes many toxic chemicals including;

The Navy is now conducting open air testing in California, Oregon and Washington coast line. They are now using a whole host of TOXIC CHEMICALS including some banned by the Geneva Convention, like Red Phosphorous. The Navy and Air Force toxic chemical list includes, but not limited to:



  • Aluminum Coated Fiberglass Particles (CHAFF)
  • Acenaphthene
  • Aromatic Hydrobarbons
  • Barium Chromate
  • Benzene
  • Cadium
  • Chlorides
  • Chromium
  • Copper
  • Flouranthene
  • Hydrogen Cyanide (used in Zyklon b in Nazi death camps)
  • Iron
  • Lead
  • Manganese
  • Naphitalene
  • Potassium Perchlorate
  • Perchlorate IN
  • Rocket Fuels
  • Toluene
  • Jet Fuel Emissions
  • Xylene
  • Zinc

Aluminum and Zinc caught my attention. In 1975, I had a class , microbiology, they taught that aluminum,zinc would retard plant growth by stopping the root system from absorbing water. Following that line of thought, would that not make the trees more combustible?

Another curious item, the engines used today produce almost zero vapor trail. The old vapor trails came off of the wingtips and the heat from the engines because of temperature and changing speed of aircraft under load.




 

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Here's another video from Jim Lee that explains quite well what the majority of us are likely seeing in the sky, and/or in some of the pictures in this thread.


I was so impressed after I watched many gigs of this guy's material, I gladly donated him some cash for setting me straight on so many things.

I had to edit this post because I attached the wrong video.
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  • Aluminum Coated Fiberglass Particles (CHAFF)
  • Acenaphthene
  • Aromatic Hydrobarbons
  • Barium Chromate
  • Benzene
  • Cadium
  • Chlorides
  • Chromium
  • Copper
  • Flouranthene
  • Hydrogen Cyanide (used in Zyklon b in Nazi death camps)
  • Iron
  • Lead
  • Manganese
  • Naphitalene
  • Potassium Perchlorate
  • Perchlorate IN
  • Rocket Fuels
  • Toluene
  • Jet Fuel Emissions
  • Xylene
  • Zinc
Interestingly enough @asatiger1966, pretty much all of the chemicals, metals, and compounds you listed above are discussed in the last video I posted.

I just re watched the last video, and the part at around 33:00 where he talks about how someone in a FAA? control center is able to switch the type of fuel a commercial jetliner is burning at a flip of a switch, and the pilot's are completely unaware of the fact. This isn't surprising.

A lot of fringe and/or fear porn type stuff is out there to be seen and read in regard to chemtrails, and it's not a wonder so many people are so confused regarding what's going on, are they real, legitimate, etc.

Jim Lee is pretty much a straight up facts guy, and is at the front line in regard to public awareness about geoengineering, etc. The first video I posted several posts back is a 100 year history of geoengineering PowerPoint presentation from 2014.

My critical thinking mind told me years ago that commercial airliners were responsible for what I was seeing in the sky, and for what pretty much everyone else was seeing too. The proof is in the last video I posted.

Jim Lee gets into more detail in regard to the military applications of geoengineering, NASA, rocketry, ionospheric heaters, mobile and stationary HAARP's currently around the world, and so much more.

Funny that if you type HAARP into wackapedia it just says the one in Alaska is offline, sold to the university of Anchorage? , and talks about conspiracy nutters. Yea, wackapedia 😕

I don't want to derail this thread, but some of what he gets into regarding CBD (carbon black dust, etc) and how they (TPTB) have created floods for warfare in the past, etc, I couldn't help but wonder if it could be relevant in part of several ideas that could tie into some of the mud floods in our altered history. Perhaps that topic is for another thread.

 
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From Never A Straight Answer (NASA):

Yeah, sure NASA. Whatever you say.

From Ann Fillmore, PhD, quoting a letter from an anonymous whistleblower who calls themselves John Locke:


Other highlights from the report:




As an aside, the area that I live in sees heavy spraying at least 2-3 times a week. Within the last few months I have experienced what I believe to be side effects: a vertigo-like feeling, intense ringing in the ears, muscle pain, lethargy, gastrointestinal issues. I think this could be the result of the EMF that is deployed alongside the spraying of the chemicals.

Why Lithium?

Here's another quote from a Professor of Climatology:

For anyone that still needs more info to be convinced this is happening, please follow this link and find the bibliography as it is well sourced and should give you plenty of material to review before making a decision.


There is a reason that weather modification is called The New Manhattan Project by many. Not only is it a planet-altering technology, but it is also so compartmentalized and controlled that most people who may work in those industries may have no idea what they are involved in (pilots, air traffic control, scientists, climatologists, etc).

How many world leaders actually know this is going on? How many world leaders do you think knew that the US and Russia were developing nuclear weapons before it was too late? Perhaps you are referring to the trillionaire top of the pyramid folk? How can you be so sure that they haven't taken precautions? Do they live in areas with heavy spraying? What makes you think they don't have expensive air/water filtration systems in their homes, private jets, and vehicles?

If you knew exactly what was being sprayed, you could probably offset a decent amount of it using specific supplements or activities to prevent absorption. Therein lies the issue: until we actually know what is being sprayed and when, there are precautions one could make to offset some of the potential health issues. Of course, that addresses none of the other environmental concerns like plant growth, water quality, other animals, etc.

This is one of the few topics that makes me literally and figuratively sick to my stomach...
Solid research, the below may help,



Quote:
PUBLIC LAW 105—85—NOV. 18, 1997: USE OF HUMAN SUBJECTS FOR TESTING OF CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL AGENTS

SEC. 1078. RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF HUMAN SUBJECTS FOR TESTING OF CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL AGENTS.

(a) PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES.—The Secretary of Defense may not conduct (directly or by contract)

(1) any test or experiment involving the use of a chemical agent or biological agent on a civilian population; or
(2) any other testing of a chemical agent or biological agent on human subjects.

(b) EXCEPTIONS.—Subject to subsections (c), (d), and (e), the prohibition in subsection (a) does not apply to a test or experiment carried out for any of the following purposes:

(1) Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity.
(2) Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents.
(3) Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control.


So section (a) prohibits these cruel and inhumane chemical and biological tests on humans.

Then section (b) says that the prohibitions in section (a) do not apply to tests carried out for virtually any purpose. So section (b) completely negates the prohibitions of section (a).

In Other Words:
The U.S. government can test chemicals and biological agents on humans for nearly any purpose they desire.


The Following Should Also Be Noted
The term "biological agent" as stated above in (a)(1) is defined in (e) as follows:

Quote:
(e) BIOLOGICAL AGENT DEFINED.—In this section, the term
‘‘biological agent’’ means any micro-organism (including bacteria,
viruses, fungi, rickettsiac, or protozoa), pathogen, or infectious substance,
and any naturally occurring, bioengineered, or synthesized
component of any such micro-organism, pathogen, or infectious substance,
whatever its origin or method of production, that is capable
of causing—
(1) death, disease, or other biological malfunction in a
human, an animal, a plant, or another living organism;
(2) deterioration of food, water, equipment, supplies, or
materials of any kind; or
(3) deleterious alteration of the environment.

In Other Words:
The U.S. government can test chemicals and biological agents on humans that cause death, biological malfunction, and deleterious alteration of the environment. The term "deleterious alteration of the environment" brings chemtrails to mind.

And you thought you were a sovereign person, living a sovereign State. At best we are subjects, but of who?
 

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If you knew exactly what was being sprayed, you could probably offset a decent amount of it using specific supplements or activities to prevent absorption. Therein lies the issue: until we actually know what is being sprayed and when, there are precautions one could make to offset some of the potential health issues.

This is one of the few topics that makes me literally and figuratively sick to my stomach...
Yea, this topic will make anyone that becomes fully aware of what's been going on sick to their stomach. It's quite disturbing.

In regard to offsetting the absorption of the metals (etc) we are all being pummeled with daily, there's definitely ways.

There isn't a linear path for detox - as detoxing from heavy metals isn't one size fits all. It's a bit tricky, and perhaps a bit dangerous at minimum if not done properly.

Before anyone attempt's to detox, it's highly recommend to get your hair tested by a qualified laboratory. And equally to that, don't start taking any new supplements beforehand as it would likely skew your test results.

Theres a mish mosh of website's (etc) that claim to be well qualified regarding testing hair samples, but it seems the places that don't rinse, wash, tamper with the sample beforehand, etc, are the way to go. Obviously, there's some conflicting opinions and/or information to be read regarding the right way, or the wrong way, regarding just that part alone.

My wife and I are both going to have this hair testing done in the near future. This labs kind of stuff (who to consider, lab results, supplements, etc) likely deserves a dedicated thread of its own - providing that topic even has a place on this website.

I have a friend that lives in Colorado, and he's one of the most healthy people I know, and has been that way for nearly a decade. He doesn't put anything into, or on his body that shouldn't be there while at work, home, play, etc.

Not long ago, he had his hair tested, and his children's hair tested. All three of them came back with off the charts levels of aluminum, and very high levels of barium and strontium at minimum. This coming from some of the most healthy people I know of. They use reverse osmosis as their source of water as well.

My friends in Colorado are in the process of detoxing, but I won't get into that as to not derail the topic of this thread any further.
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Yea, this topic will make anyone that becomes fully aware of what's been going on sick to their stomach. It's quite disturbing.

In regard to offsetting the absorption of the metals (etc) we are all being pummeled with daily, there's definitely ways.

There isn't a linear path for detox - as detoxing from heavy metals isn't one size fits all. It's a bit tricky, and perhaps a bit dangerous at minimum if not done properly.

Before anyone attempt's to detox, it's highly recommend to get your hair tested by a qualified laboratory. And equally to that, don't start taking any new supplements beforehand as it would likely skew your test results.

Theres a mish mosh of website's (etc) that claim to be well qualified regarding testing hair samples, but it seems the places that don't rinse, wash, tamper with the sample beforehand, etc, are the way to go. Obviously, there's some conflicting opinions and/or information to be read regarding the right way, or the wrong way, regarding just that part alone.

My wife and I are both going to have this hair testing done in the near future. This labs kind of stuff (who to consider, lab results, supplements, etc) likely deserves a dedicated thread of its own - providing that topic even has a place on this website.

I have a friend that lives in Colorado, and he's one of the most healthy people I know, and has been that way for nearly a decade. He doesn't put anything into, or on his body that shouldn't be there while at work, home, play, etc.

Not long ago, he had his hair tested, and his children's hair tested. All three of them came back with off the charts levels of aluminum, and very high levels of barium and strontium at minimum. This coming from some of the most healthy people I know of. They use reverse osmosis as their source of water as well.

My friends in Colorado are in the process of detoxing, but I won't get into that as to not derail the topic of this thread any further.
Back on topic "Legitimization of chemtrail airplanes and tactics", this new video by Jim Lee from yesterday titled - "5 Types of Real Chemtrails - Just the Facts" was a really good one too (it's definitely history). It covers a lot of material in one session, and goes far beyond what the majority of people are seeing in the sky and/or pictures posted in this thread, etc.


Side note...

I don't think Jim Lee is the end all be all, nor do I think he has all the correct answers for absolutely everything, such as, perhaps why the PTB seem to want to melt the poles, and some other fringe topics that I've never seen him mention, but that's ok, I don't know of anyone that has all the answers for absolutely everything. In all honesty, I think he's aware of things he doesn't talk about because he can't prove them. He wants to be taken seriously at the highest level which should be obvious to anyone that's done their homework on the guy.
 
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I appreciate your comment WG, but I still find his message to be with the right moral compass. I listen to his weekly program and he doesn't hold back. His claim about global warming is that geoengineering is the biggest causation, which is the same that Marvin Herdon states. That being said I am always open to more information from any and all sources.
I don't like chemtrails, but who even knows if we should be pleased for that.

Khabibullo Abdussamatov - Wikipedia

Only God knows if we were under a deadly cold.
 

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As I'm typing this I am watching a chemtrail drop in the sky: long, intermittent thick spray that is slowly dissolving into a white haze. Oh and would you look at that, it calls for rain in a couple of days :unsure: I wonder why....
In my close observations, I've actually noticed the exact same here in the south eastern united states. I notice the "chemtrails" 24-48 hours before they predict rainfall.

I can't speak with much authority regarding the pattern I'm noticing here as I haven't been paying attention close enough for long enough.

I spoke with my dad about this stuff recently, and he's actually asked some commercial airline pilots about this stuff. They said "chemtrails" were completely nonsense.

According to them pilots, they said what we are seeing is all based on atmospheric conditions, ie; high humidity, etc. In other words, a change in the planes "contrail" based in atmospheric conditions.

Well, I/we know better than that.
 

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I spoke with my dad about this stuff recently, and he's actually asked some commercial airline pilots about this stuff. They said "chemtrails" were completely nonsense.

According to them pilots, they said what we are seeing is all based on atmospheric conditions, ie; high humidity, etc. In other words, a change in the planes "contrail" based in atmospheric conditions.

Well, I/we know better than that.
At this point, we can assume that chemtrails either come from non-commercial flights (Military, Intelligence, Private companies that specialize in geoengineering) or it is added to fuel surreptitiously. My inclination is to believe its the former, while I am not a pilot I would imagine that changing the fuel mixtures would require adjustments to the performance of the plane. This would have to involve the pilots, and I doubt that those who would seek to get this stuff into fuel tanks would want regular folks to know that this is happening. If pilots knew their fuel mixtures were being changed up like this, I would imagine the information would eventually leak out. That is why I strongly believe that the "chemtrail planes" are separate entirely from commercial airplanes. The only other way to do it would be to hide the chemicals inside tanks in the plane, which are released remotely when the plane is in the air. But again, you are talking about weight changes mid-flight which would likely sound the alarms to any aware pilot. Of course all of this is conjecture, if someone with commercial flight experience could chime in to fill out this theory it would be appreciated.

Theoretically, if you saw a plane overhead that was dumping, you could quickly look up the flight on the FAA tracker website, to see if the flight is commercial or not. That said, I am not sure if the FAA site would disclose a flight path of a chemtrail plane if it was military in nature however, if you can see it and it's not on the FAA site then you know you are most likely looking at a spooky plane. If it belongs to one of these creepy geoengineering companies, you may be able to glean more information from the site although if I were one of those companies I'd have some kind of shell organization to register the plane to, to avoid prying eyes.

EDIT:
Some additional information regarding flight tracking programs and spotting chemtrail planes from flightradar24.com:

Pay special attention to the following statement:
Common aircraft models that do not have an ADS-B transponder and are NOT visible on Flightradar24 :
(*show list of planes*)

There are also some older A300, A310, A320, B737, B747, B757, B767 aircraft flying without and ADS-B transponder, which make those aircraft invisible on Flightradar24.
Flightradar24 relies on volunteers around the world for the majority of our coverage. Find out how you can contribute.”

http://planefinder.net/about/faqs/
“Why can’t I see every plane?
By way of explanation we pick up ADS-B data transmitted by aircraft and received by ground base stations. Aircraft must be equipped with suitable transmission equipment for them to be detected by our receivers. Currently not all aircraft are equipped – Europe is currently well ahead of the US. Across the world countries are making ADS-B mandatory for most aircraft over the coming years so this will get better and better too.


Why can’t I see planes in my area?
We operate a growing network of our own equipment supported by data sharers across the globe. However we don’t yet have data for all locations. We are actively adding ADS-B feeds as fast as we can but please let us know if your area is missing and we’ll do our best to help. If you can share data, know of any data ADS-B data sources or would be interested in hosting equipment for us then please let us know.”


http://www.flightexplorer.com/products/professional/proFaq.aspx
“Why do some aircraft appear with a BLOCKED tail number?
A BLOCKED tail number is an aircraft where the owner/operator has requested to have their tail number removed from display on flight tracking tools via the NBAA’s BARR (Blocked Aircraft Registration Request) program. To have your tail number BLOCKED, go to Blocking Display of Aircraft Situation Display to Industry (ASDI) Data | NBAA - National Business Aviation Association.

Why can’t I track VFR flight, military flights, and certain non-US registered GA flights?
The FAA filters out military, non-US registered, and sensitive traffic. Other than that, you can track any IFR, VFR (with flight following requested), and Canadian registry GA flights.”


http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByRoute.do#1
“Why don’t all flight trackers provide the same information?
To be useful to travellers and family members, flight trackers often have to fill in some of the gaps in the data from government sources, gate times, for example. There are other variables to consider. There is typically, but not always, a message sent to an air traffic control centre on departure. In the cases where that message is not sent, a flight tracker needs to make a best guess about the actual departure time. The same goes for arrival times. The methods that the various flight trackers use to guess vary – causing discrepancies in information provided by different flight tracker tools.”
 

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At this point, we can assume that chemtrails either come from non-commercial flights (Military, Intelligence, Private companies that specialize in geoengineering) or it is added to fuel surreptitiously. My inclination is to believe its the former, while I am not a pilot I would imagine that changing the fuel mixtures would require adjustments to the performance of the plane. This would have to involve the pilots, and I doubt that those who would seek to get this stuff into fuel tanks would want regular folks to know that this is happening. If pilots knew their fuel mixtures were being changed up like this, I would imagine the information would eventually leak out. That is why I strongly believe that the "chemtrail planes" are separate entirely from commercial airplanes. The only other way to do it would be to hide the chemicals inside tanks in the plane, which are released remotely when the plane is in the air. But again, you are talking about weight changes mid-flight which would likely sound the alarms to any aware pilot. Of course all of this is conjecture, if someone with commercial flight experience could chime in to fill out this theory it would be appreciated.

Theoretically, if you saw a plane overhead that was dumping, you could quickly look up the flight on the FAA tracker website, to see if the flight is commercial or not. That said, I am not sure if the FAA site would disclose a flight path of a chemtrail plane if it was military in nature however, if you can see it and it's not on the FAA site then you know you are most likely looking at a spooky plane. If it belongs to one of these creepy geoengineering companies, you may be able to glean more information from the site although if I were one of those companies I'd have some kind of shell organization to register the plane to, to avoid prying eyes.

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Some additional information regarding flight tracking programs and spotting chemtrail planes from flightradar24.com:
Thanks for the detailed response. I appreciate the links too.

I hear you on all that, I'm quite familiar with a lot of fringe type ideas, and frankly, I wouldn't put anything past the PTB. For example, look what they've been doing to water supplies for eon's in this country alone.

The next time I see what I've been referring to as typical "chemtrails", I will get on the website you posted, and see who's up there. Given the amount of trails many of us see covering domestic and commercial flight paths, it would take an army of unregistered planes to do what we are seeing if that's actually the case.

I'm quite familiar with many fringe theories that go well beyond geoengineering, and it's hard to say what exactly is happening in regard to that stuff with any certainty at this point.

Edit...

Here's the follow-up video to the last video I posted. It covers some of what was discussed yesterday (above).


Theres another thread on this site that gets into why the color of the sun has changed from yellow to white over the years. Jim Lee covers all that well too.

As has been said many times on this site before, everyone must draw from the hat and believe what they choose to believe.
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At this point, we can assume that chemtrails either come from non-commercial flights (Military, Intelligence, Private companies that specialize in geoengineering) or it is added to fuel surreptitiously. My inclination is to believe its the former, while I am not a pilot I would imagine that changing the fuel mixtures would require adjustments to the performance of the plane. This would have to involve the pilots, and I doubt that those who would seek to get this stuff into fuel tanks would want regular folks to know that this is happening. If pilots knew their fuel mixtures were being changed up like this, I would imagine the information would eventually leak out. That is why I strongly believe that the "chemtrail planes" are separate entirely from commercial airplanes. The only other way to do it would be to hide the chemicals inside tanks in the plane, which are released remotely when the plane is in the air. But again, you are talking about weight changes mid-flight which would likely sound the alarms to any aware pilot. Of course all of this is conjecture, if someone with commercial flight experience could chime in to fill out this theory it would be appreciated.

Theoretically, if you saw a plane overhead that was dumping, you could quickly look up the flight on the FAA tracker website, to see if the flight is commercial or not. That said, I am not sure if the FAA site would disclose a flight path of a chemtrail plane if it was military in nature however, if you can see it and it's not on the FAA site then you know you are most likely looking at a spooky plane. If it belongs to one of these creepy geoengineering companies, you may be able to glean more information from the site although if I were one of those companies I'd have some kind of shell organization to register the plane to, to avoid prying eyes.

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Some additional information regarding flight tracking programs and spotting chemtrail planes from flightradar24.com:
Hey @trismegistus, so I checked out the flightradar24.com website, which was very enlightening BTW.

According to the flightradar24 website, I live right under several major commercial, and domestic airliner flight paths, including eastbound, westbound, and a little bit of everything in-between. Tack on the jetstream, and I see some really interesting stuff, patterns, drift, etc, happening.

Since my last post, I'm still studying when I see persistent chemtrails, or what I'd refer to as 'typical" chemtrails, IOW, the kind that everyone posts pictures of all over the Internet, including on this site, AKA, typical jet airliner made cirrus clouds.

I've been watching flightradar24 quite regularly in regard to who's up there when I'm seeing this stuff, and it's definitely not unmarked planes.

I also see a connection between what my dad was told by several commercial airline pilots (my dad is a security guard), and what they said being more less the truth... sort of. When we have a lot of humidity in my area, these planes "contrails" really explode into what we've all see so many pictures of, testimonials of, etc.

I'm not sure if you watched the last video I posted, but it gets into how many flights there currently are in a day on earth -vs- 20-30 years ago, and some of its relevance gets off topic, yet relevant, and very interesting. Those statistics would be the army of planes I spoke of earlier.

Perhaps I should've started a new thread to get into all of what I've been talking about here. Unfortunately, it seemed like the right thread because there appears to be a lot of global mutual misunderstanding regarding what people are typically seeing, taking pictures of, posting pictures of, etc -vs- what the commercial, domestic, and military jet planes are pumping out -vs- true geoengineering -vs- what people refer to as being "sprayed" by some unknown substance, by unknown entity/s.

Personally, I think the best method of "spraying" the entire planet, should there actually be a hidden endgame reason to do so, which wouldn't surprise me, as things have surfaced that happened in the past, would be to utilize the logistics that are already in place. Generally speaking, there's no better place to hide something from people than right in front of them.
 
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Walked into my backyard last week...

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An hour between the two photos, this was the view for 360°
Horrible, I'm detecting lastly that in this pattern (three/four days chemtrail attack), and usually a couple of days to allow atmosphere to recover (greenhouse effect)
we have colder weather than usual. I don't know if this comes through normal recovering effect or if simply sun is getting colder.
 

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Does anyone else get the feeling that the rain season in the midwest is targeted geoengineering?

On that thought - - what if it was being paid for by a foreign government? If China, for example, wanted to pay a company to drop chaff all over the midwest to ruin American crops would they get away with it? When you think about it, it's not like the US gov't could make a public announcement about it to justify some sort of response.

I live somewhat close to the areas that these storms have been rolling through. As a personal anecdote, there has been two severe thunderstorms in the last 12 hours, first blew in from the north, the second from the south. I'm not sure I've ever seen that before.
 
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They would have no rice harvest next year if they did that.
I believe such a move would be against the game rules.

I currently perceive this world as a huge NHL league/country, where everyone against each other during the game only, and after the game they shake hands. Every team has a president, but ultimately all of them are owned by the League, and abide by the same Rules and Regulations.
 

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They would have no rice harvest next year if they did that.
I believe such a move would be against the game rules.

I currently perceive this world as a huge NHL league/country, where everyone against each other during the game only, and after the game they shake hands. Every team has a president, but ultimately all of them are owned by the League, and abide by the same Rules and Regulations.
I suppose my thought exercise was more general and hypothetical - - it could be billionaires that are trying to affect stock prices on food products. Point being would rogue geoengineering ever be disclosed, at risk of letting people know it was happening before they were "ready" to announce it? No doubt it is already going on, but according to the mainstream it is all still "theoretical"
 

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From geoengineering to bioengineering! With Elana Freeland.


A good rundown to where all the chemtrail thing is going.
 

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Some while ago, there was still an official (governmental) website to trivialize chemtrail and to explain them away.
They called it "Solar Radiation Management", SRM. To combat the evil man-made climate change, of course.
The site is now gone, the confession is buried deeper.
I suppose in reaction to links from "conspiracy" sites, citing it as proof for those who can read.
 

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Here's an excellent video I came across that covers pretty much everything that's been posted and discussed in this thread. This video confirms many of my previously mentioned suspicions. I have been studying this subject for a while now, and my research is still ongoing :unsure:

This video lumps some of the best of the best information I have came across from many highly respected author's, researchers, and alike, from over the last 100+ years into one clip.

 
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