Jedi Knights of the 17th century

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Bizarre things dug out from the literature of the past keep on coming. Whatever is depicted on the images below is beyond my understanding, when looked from the conventional stand point. Of course being in French, and German, understanding of these books does not help my comprehension of the contents. Some of the images these books present are are truly fascinating.

It appears we have some sort of knowledge possessed by the 17th century people involving remarkable control over electricity. Actually, the books were published in the 17th century. Whether they reflect on the events contemporary to the publication, I do not know. The below images reminded me of some of the Tesla's experiments. Yet, trying to translate some of the text, suggests that it is just fireworks. Electrical fireworks may be...

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Apart from being a creation of the 17th century "Jules Vernes", I do not see any traditional explanation for an existence of any such technology that far back.

Any opinions on the displayed below, would be highly appreciated.


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Eigentliches Abrieß des Feuerwerks schlosses und des Barraquen in welche aus Rom.
 
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This looks like an unattended Minecraft server gone haywire! At first I thought "fiction" for certain... it appears to be a diagram of a bunch of cannons shooting puffs of nothing? A parade maybe? It very weird that the shirtless man in the castle is not labeled.

Title. Actual demolition of the fireworks castle and the Barracks from Rome...
A. the main barrack. Military setting.
H. (cannon guy lighting wick) -- The Lord General and Pfaltzgravens bulb, the first fire given the firework.
K. (central statue) -- the column whereupon the peace image stood. Peace statue.
L. (jedis) -- men dressed in black and white battle hard with fireworks to kill each other. The energy conducting throughout the field is called "feuerwercks" -- literally, "fire works".
M. (barrels around the tower) "Cannen" may mean bottles? ... (and then what I cannot translate from "Robo," or "Robz" maybe), stood around the peace tower
N. (The strange signposts) - -a column with a large firewheel

I get an impression here that it is a celebration. The fighting seems to be purely performative - there is a choir and an audience.

Though the word demolition in the title seems to change everything. The reference to Rome is also strange. And it is incredibly strange the way they seem to use the statue to extend the very long wick, setting off what seems to be a domino cascade of fireworks emplacements.
 
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Yes, the flamberge -- literally named "flame swords". The undulating pattern is allegedly decorative, though is said to have given a strategic advantage through the extra vibration (there's that bloody word again) caused by the shape. Got to wonder whether such a thing, with the protective cup-hilt, could carry a charge, eh?
 
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Yes, the flamberge -- literally named "flame swords". The undulating pattern is allegedly decorative, though is said to have given a strategic advantage through the extra vibration (there's that bloody word again) caused by the shape. Got to wonder whether such a thing, with the protective cup-hilt, could carry a charge, eh?
I would imagine a lot would depend on the current atmospheric conditions. We may lough at some of the inventions of the past. But there had to be a reason for items like these. If my neighbors were getting hit by a lightning every 15 minutes, I would be carrying one of the below as well. Why else would they want to ground themselves? But that would suggest that atmospheric conditions were very much different from today.

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I would imagine a lot would depend on the current atmospheric conditions
Perhaps this were the taller ones.Lower Atmospheric Density creates giantism? In any case nice Pictures,never seen before.

The reference to Rome is also
I allways found it strange but it's official History: Das 'Heilige Römische Reich Deutscher Nation' :

The Holy Roman Empire

Title. Actual demolition of the fireworks castle and the Barracks from Rome...
Abrieß seem to be an older Version from Abriss or Abriß which can mean 'Demolition' but also 'procedure',the second one will be correct.

The' I' is missing in the key : First fire given to the firework - In the Image the Little Angel on the line.

It' s full moon ,by the way :oops:

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I 'll translate the other letters next days...
 
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I allways found it strange but it's official History: Das 'Heilige Römische Reich Deutscher Nation' :

The Holy Roman Empire
A friend of mine, knowing I'm into history and conspiracy, once told me this out of the blue -- "The Third Reich was Nazi Germany, do you know who the other 3 Reichs were?"

1st Reich - Roman Empire
2nd Reich - Non-Nazi Germany
3rd Recih - Nazi Germany

Can you guess the 4th Reich? Here's a clue -- where did all the top-ranking Nazis wind up after WW2?
 

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Bizarre things dug out from the literature of the past keep on coming. Whatever is depicted on the images below is beyond my understanding, when looked from the conventional stand point. Of course being in French, and German, understanding of these books does not help my comprehension of the contents. Some of the images these books present are are truly fascinating.

It appears we have some sort of knowledge possessed by the 17th century people involving remarkable control over electricity. Actually, the books were published in the 17th century. Whether they reflect on the events contemporary to the publication, I do not know. The below images reminded me of some of the Tesla's experiments. Yet, trying to translate some of the text, suggests that it is just fireworks. Electrical fireworks may be...

Apart from being a creation of the 17th century "Jules Vernes", I do not see any traditional explanation for an existence of any such technology that far back.

Any opinions on the displayed below, would be highly appreciated.

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Eigentliches Abrieß des Feuerwerks schlosses und des Barraquen in welche aus Rom.
this picture to me is an undebunkable smoking gun, why you may ask?
for two things:
1: the "jedis"
2: the fact that there is motherfucking lightining coming out of the domes
how this painting wasnt censored is a mistery

Some of the swords of the past are also more complicated than they have to be.
I know it is far reaching but...
not far reaching, the swords were always made of conductive metal for a reason
 
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how this painting wasnt censored is a
The problem that dawned on me by the 'jedi image' is that it's singular in its depiction isn't it? That implies the possibility of a stool pigeon from base motives. At least an original should be examined. If i follow for example Wilhelm Kammeier who examined in the 1930th documents (Urkunden) from the so called middle age - he found forgerys everywhere. He saw a whole Industrie for forgeries in Renessance times to rewrite history. Funny is, that the national socialists let him do but now he have the reputation of an evel Nazi though he not even once was in the Party.He had no clou about mud flood etc. wherefore his Renaissance Part is anachronistic but he is convincing with his forgery stuff.I mean we don't need a Kammeier to know the possibility of forgeries, no? But if it is authentic it's the Hammer of course and it fits well into the unknown history of electricity we thought about.
 
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The problem that dawned on me by the 'jedi image' is that it's singular in its depiction isn't it? That implies the possibility of a stool pigeon from base motives.At least an original should be examined. If i follow for example Wilhelm Kammeier who examined in the 1930th documents (Urkunden) from the so called middle age - he found forgerys everywhere. He saw a whole Industrie for forgeries in Renessance times to rewrite history. Funny is,that the national socialists let him do but now he have the reputation of an evel Nazi though he not even once was in the Party. He had no clou about mud flood etc. wherefore his Renaissance Part is anachronistic but he is convincing with his forgery stuff. I mean we don't need a Kammeier to know the possibility of forgeries, no? But if it is authentic it's the Hammer of course and it fits well into the unknown history of electricity we thought about.
would be an odd thing to fake

I doubt that we are talking about isolated occurrences of bizarre technological advances here. What do you think about the picture below, attributed to 1782? Sure enough there could not be any such display of electricity back then.
Source: Vue perspective de la décoration et du feu d'artifice tiré à l'hôtel de ville de Paris en présence de leurs majestés a l'occasion de la naissance de monseigneur le dauphin le 21 janvier 1782.
that one is quite impressive too, look at all the cracked ground!
 
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If those were explosives, would these people be that close to the blowing up ordinance? Fireworks with so much control and precision in 1613?

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Représentation des artifices de feu, et autres triomphes faits à Paris, 1613.

And what about this one? I do not see any cannons in the boats? Are those rockets in 1613?

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Représentation de deux artifices de feu et triomphes faits à Paris sur la rivière devant le Louvre, Le dimanche 25 et le jeudi 29, jours d'août 1613 en l'honneur de la Fête de Saint Louis.
 

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the text and titles of all these constantly refer to "false fire" or "fireworks". "Fireworks" could be a post-hoc term, although the spelling is appropriately outdated in the German and French pictures both. we don't see the word "electricity" in first use until 1600, so it would've taken time to enter common language.

The 1782 picture is really weird. The title claims it is a celebratory fireworks display commemorating the birth of a "Monsignor le Dauphin," son of Louis XIV. A side note: both the German and French pictures use Italian or Spanish titles, not German and French ones.

Why is there so much earth and trees piled up in the middle of the presentation? What is that tentacle reaching above the two figures at the centre (statue?) ? What is this strange shape in the centre of the circle over the ancient Greek looking building? "Decoration and fireworks" does not cut it at all
 
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