Double-headed eagle: its meaning and origins

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Topic is for the discussion of the double-headed eagle. Too many threads drift off into discussions about this mysterious symbol. I guess, we are trying to locate its origins, and to guess what its meaning could be. I will add a few images below. Feel welcome to join in.

Mesoamerican double-header
1600–1500 BCE (right)
This two-headed eagle was cut from smoky jade by the Olmec and its eyes please visitors at the best museum of Costa Rica.

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One more from the New World. Presence of the double-headers in the pre-Columbian Americas can not be underestimated.

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1236 A.D. Islamic Double Headed Eagle
Kubadabad Palace, Konya Karatay Madrasah Museum


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Double Headed Eagle - Woodcut c. 1510
by Hans Burgkmair

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And a classic one
Hittite - c. 1700 to c. 1200 BC

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Does anyone else follow the blog of cat 779? I've read pretty much every article she has written (before she moved to her new platform) and individually her posts are insanity but as a unified theory I haven't seen one better. No other researcher brings this hidden history quite so close to home and the present day. She's found evidence that the chronological manipulation hasn't stopped and that major chronological shifts can be seen as recent as 1970 facilitated by the separation of people by the iron curtain. She says that this weird eagle thing is just one of the many symbols of what she dubs the mega-state.

Some of the main points include the idea that until the revolutions of the 19th early 20th century there was one state on the planet that was peaceful and highly technological. She says that all the revolutions from the french to the russian and beyond happened simultaneously around mid 1900s and the evil deeds were spread out through time to lessen the impact on our modern memory this seems to have been done by people like HG Wells. Also colonialism never happened and what is shown to us as colonialism is actually the population of the mega-state being evacuated from the occupied territories of the red combat clone army to safer places in Africa etc. She says that the mega-state (tartaria) never left only temporarily retreated. the real events of ww2 are encoded in the so called korean war which is still on going, north korea =china and the bankrupt soviet corporation, and america and the un represent the mega-state.
She says that the cultural layer is the result of world wide dust storms that were generated to destroy the combat clones of red army and that this event is recognized as the dust bowl in America.

I found (and lost) an interesting article about the replacement of the eagles on the kremlin with the star and how the soviets for the longest time lacked the technology to 1 remove the original eagles and 2 create a light enough star to fit on top. this lack of technology is a direct result of the 1917 trading with the enemy act and the 1951 inventions secrets act that sought to choke out the communist international on the economic front.
 
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Perhaps naively this book may offer some clues. Have not read it myself yet, but the introduction sounds promising.

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Before presenting the translation of General Krassnoff's book "From Double Eagle to Red Flag" to the English-speaking public, the translators would like to introduce the author and his work.
The well-known Russian writer Kouprin expresses his opinion of this book in the Paris newspaper "La Cause Commune" in the following terms :
"General Krassnoff has much to narrate. He has witnessed and himself taken part in many events during these terrible years, events so horrible and great, gruesome and heroic, that they would have sufficed for at least ten ordinary lives. And one must admit, judging by the first volume, that the author describes vividly and with real talent all the facts he is ac quainted with and the events he has personally witnssed and experienced."
The author has had indeed exceptional opportunities for observation. A Don Cossack by birth, he began his military career as a Lieutenant in the Atamansky Guard Cossack regiment at St. Petersburg, and soon became known as a dashing cavalry officer and sportsman, and as a writer on military sub jects. During the Japanese war he was at the front as a mili tary correspondent. On his return he served in various parts of European Russia and in Siberia. The Great War found him in command of a Cossack cavalry regiment in Poland, at the head of which he won by a brilliant charge his St. George's cross. He successively commanded a cavalry brigade, a division and the famous 3rd Cavalry Corps.

When the Bolshevik revolution broke out, General Krassnoff left the North and reached the Don region after many adventures and narrow escapes. In the spring of 1918 the Don Cos sacks rose against the Bolshevik rule, and the Don Parliament in its first session elected General Krassnoff Ataman of the Don.

He filled this post during nine months. The situation he had to face was an extremely difficult one. The Region had suf fered greatly from the anarchical rule of the Bolsheviks, but in spite of this he organized a regular Don army and freed the whole of the Don Region. In the spring of 1919 he resigned under the pressure of influences foreign to the Cossacks and left South Russia. He lived for some time at Batoum, where he continued to work on the first volume of his book, which he had begun while living in seclusion in a distant Cossack village before his election as Ataman.

During his full and interesting life General Krassnoff has had the opportunity of coming into closest touch with the vari ous classes of Russian society, and of meeting the most prominent and interesting personalities of the time. We believe that he has succeeded in giving an exact picture of the events which preceded and caused the Revolution, as well as of the chaos of ideas in Russia during the tragic reign of the Emperor Nicholas II, which was the chief cause of the terrible catastrophe.

"General Krassnoff tells us in his book many straight-forward and painful truths," writes Kouprin. "It is necessary to note, that because of this, his book has already provoked. indignation in certain circles.·

We would like to emphasize once more, that the chief interest of the book consists in its being a vivid picture of the mentality of various classes of society of the period, which led to the fall of one of the greatest Empires of the world.

It is most valuable as an historical chronicle of its time.

The book was originally published in Russia in four volumes, the first of which embraced the period from 1894 till the begin ning of the Great War, the second described the war itself and the first months of the revolution up to the seizing of power by the Bolsheviks, the third, entitled ..The Martyrs" dealt with the Civil war, and the fourth described life under the rule of the Bolsheviks.

We trust that the translation of this book into English wilI help many to gain a clearer insight into the events of the past few years in Russia.
 

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The double-headed eagle was a very prominent symbol in Tsarist Russia. Here are some examples of the double-headed eagle among the artwork commissioned by the Russian royal family:


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Interestingly, this symbol can also be found among Native American artworks in the United States. Here is an image I found from a power point presentation/lecture on Native Americans. The image was described as a bird pictograph found in Paint Lick Mountain, Tazewell, Virginia, which "
may have been done by the Cherokee Indians who lived in the area. This example is probably of the mythical “Thunderbird” that was thought to be responsible for thunder, lightening and rain. The Thunderbird is a prominent icon seen throughout the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex (SCC) which included Cherokee ancestors."

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I've attached the original presentation for reference. I don't know how reliable cave paintings are though, since KorbenDallas has pointed out in an earlier post that cave paintings are very likely forgeries.

Btw the photos of the Russian double headed eagle artwork are my own. They are taken of the Faberge collection at the Virginia Institute of Fine Arts in Richmond, Virginia. There is an impressive collection of Faberge there, as well as many artworks from around the world.
 

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You have a point. This brings to question the story of Faberge. and if these works were actually Tartarian artworks. Newearth has an interesting video of the artwork in the Imperial Palace in Russia, and how it couldn't have possibly been made by illiterate peasants. But the plate clearly has the date 1914 embossed on it. So who made these works, and what is the real story behind them? I'm planning another trip to Richmond; I will try to take better quality photos if I get a chance to view the collection again.
 
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Does anyone else follow the blog of cat 779? I've read pretty much every article she has written (before she moved to her new platform) and individually her posts are insanity but as a unified theory I haven't seen one better. No other researcher brings this hidden history quite so close to home and the present day. She's found evidence that the chronological manipulation hasn't stopped and that major chronological shifts can be seen as recent as 1970 facilitated by the separation of people by the iron curtain. She says that this weird eagle thing is just one of the many symbols of what she dubs the mega-state.

Some of the main points include the idea that until the revolutions of the 19th early 20th century there was one state on the planet that was peaceful and highly technological. She says that all the revolutions from the french to the russian and beyond happened simultaneously around mid 1900s and the evil deeds were spread out through time to lessen the impact on our modern memory this seems to have been done by people like HG Wells. Also colonialism never happened and what is shown to us as colonialism is actually the population of the mega-state being evacuated from the occupied territories of the red combat clone army to safer places in Africa etc. She says that the mega-state (tartaria) never left only temporarily retreated. the real events of ww2 are encoded in the so called korean war which is still on going, north korea =china and the bankrupt soviet corporation, and america and the un represent the mega-state.
She says that the cultural layer is the result of world wide dust storms that were generated to destroy the combat clones of red army and that this event is recognized as the dust bowl in America.

I found (and lost) an interesting article about the replacement of the eagles on the kremlin with the star and how the soviets for the longest time lacked the technology to 1 remove the original eagles and 2 create a light enough star to fit on top. this lack of technology is a direct result of the 1917 trading with the enemy act and the 1951 inventions secrets act that sought to choke out the communist international on the economic front.

Awesome interesting post! Is there an actual link to Cat blog? Is there an english translation or google translate is the way to go?

Can you say more about this clone army??? Really a red soviet combat clone army?
 
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Awesome interesting post! Is there an actual link to Cat blog? Is there an english translation or google translate is the way to go?

Can you say more about this clone army??? Really a red soviet combat clone army?
The link is in Apollyon's post. Just click on the name. Google translate works pretty well; there is an option to translate the page.
 

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Awesome interesting post! Is there an actual link to Cat blog? Is there an english translation or google translate is the way to go?

Can you say more about this clone army??? Really a red soviet combat clone army?
Of all the crazy Russian blogs i've red hers has the most clear translation
https://cat779.blog/
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https://cat779.blog/&edit-text=&act=url
and her old one
https://cat-779.livejournal.com/
About the clone army I can say that george lucas knows more than he's letting on.
Here is one of her links about the clones
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https://cat-779.livejournal.com/544276.html&edit-text=&act=url
And if you wanna go by intuition alone there's just something not quite human (Or Russian) about these bad Hombres or their actions during the "great patriotic war"
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11
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I would dumb the double headed eagle down to the ol' as above, so below. mother, father. adam and eve. sun and moon. day and night. jack and jill. however, those days of equality were squashed and now we're merely the right wing of the eagle or the left wing of the eagle. same head tho... same head.
 
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There is also this interesting Bactrian figure of a double-headed eagle man.

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Official description from the source.

Ancient Bactria and Margiana were areas along the Oxus and Murghab rivers in modern Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Afghanistan. While these areas were sparsely inhabited during much of the third millennium B.C., by about 2200 B.C. permanent settlements with distinctive forms of architecture, burial practices, and material culture had been established, supported in part by active trade with parts of Iran, Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley.

This silver-gilt shaft-hole axe is a masterpiece of three-dimensional and relief sculpture. Expertly cast and gilded with foil, it represents a bird-headed hero grappling with a wild boar and a winged dragon. The idea of the heroic bird-headed creature probably came from western Iran, where it is first documented on a cylinder seal impression. The hero's muscular body is human except for the bird talons that replace the hands and feet. He is represented twice, once on each side of the axe, and consequently appears to have two heads. On one side, he grasps the boar by the belly and on the other, by the tusks. The posture of the boar is contorted so that its bristly back forms the shape of the blade. With his other talon, the bird-headed hero grasps the winged dragon by the neck. This creature is distinguished by folded and staggered wings, a feline body, and the talons of a bird of prey in the place of his front paws. Its single horn has been broken off and lost.
Baktrians were the inhabitants of the country of Baktria around what is now Afghanistan.


Baktrians were followers of Zoroastrianism, Ancient Greek religion, Buddhism, and Hinduism.
Baktria was a Hellenistic nation, left over after the conquest of Alexander the Great. Baktria and it's citizens were rather well off for the time period due to it being a major trade area between India and the west (and china to a lesser degree).
I have also come across this interesting description:

Double-headed eagles have been present in imagery for millennia. The two-headed eagle can be found in the archaeological remains of the Sumerian civilization and through the Hittite civilization, dating from a period that ranges from the 20th century BC to the 7th century BC. The Gandaberunda is another example of a myhthological two-headed bird, which is in common use in India...
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SUMERIAN DOUBLE HEADED EAGLE FROM LAGASH. It was used as a seal and coat of arms during the rule of the Hittites and much later Byzantine Empire. Also used as a symbol of rank for the highest order of Scottish Rite Free Masonry. Now we see it used as the coat of arms in Russia. It holds the same meaning as the Jewish Star(Star of Remphan in the bible), and the Kabbalah cube.

Then I found these eagle-headed men/gods in Assyrian relief art that is supposedly from the ancient city of Nimrud that was coincidently destroyed by ISIS back in 2015. Hmm.. ISIS (a CIA backed asset) destroying Ninurta symbolism?

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Assyrian relief sculpture panel of an eagle headed protective spirit from Nimrud, Iraq. The spirit is holding a symbolic fir cone and is sprinkling holy water. 865-860 B.C North West Palace, Room F, panel 3. British Museum Assyrian Archaeological exhibit ref WA 124584-5
We all know the Anunnaki origins are from the Sumerian texts that Zecharia Sitchin made famous, so perhaps this double headed eagle somehow honors these aliens or "gods"?

I also found an old ATS post titled "Double Headed Eagle - God/Alien + human = two creatures combining to make one - Truth revealed?" from 2010 that seems to have the same idea and apparently wikipedia used to have a different description in their Double-headed eagle entry.

Origins Double-headed eagles have been present in imagery for millennia. The two-headed eagle can be found in the archaeological remains of the Sumerian civilization and through the Hittite civilization, dating from a period that ranges from the 20th century BC to the 7th century BC. Cylindric seals discovered in Bogazkoy, an old Hittite capital in modern-day Turkey, represent clearly a two-headed eagle with spread wings. The aesthetics of this symmetrical position explains in part the birth of this religious figure: It originally dates from circa 3,800 BC, and was the Sumerian symbol for the god Ninurta, son of Enlil. It can also be seen in the same region in three monumental settings: Circa 1,900 BC during the Hittite surge from north-central Anatolia (modern Turkey) down into Babylonia; in Alacahöyük around 1400 BC and in Yazilikaya before 1250 BC. Here the context looks slightly different and totally religious: The eagle returns to its ancient origins as a symbol of divine power.
Another interesting write up at this blog linked below as well.

Double Headed Eagle on Hackney Church 1966

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Symbology of double-headed eagle: Double-headed eagle
Masonic meaning: THE DOUBLE-HEADED EAGLE AND WHENCE IT CAME
[N]one can claim a more romantic or significant history than that of the Thirtieth Degree, that of the Grand Elect Knight Kadosh, or Knight of the Black and White Eagle. As an emblem this eagle is the epitome of religious and symbolic history, and to trace the winding flight of the double-headed bird is to survey the whole course of civilization, from its grey dawn north of the Persian gulf to this modern World. Its flight from the plains of Sumeria marks the rise and fall of the great mother religions of the world, and it was well on its journey, by some fifteen hundred years, when Moses found a name for the God of Israel.
 
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Symbology of double-headed eagle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
Masonic meaning: http://www.masonicdictionary.com/doubleeagle.html
[N]one can claim a more romantic or significant history than that of the Thirtieth Degree, that of the Grand Elect Knight Kadosh, or Knight of the Black and White Eagle. As an emblem this eagle is the epitome of religious and symbolic history, and to trace the winding flight of the double-headed bird is to survey the whole course of civilization, from its grey dawn north of the Persian gulf to this modern World. Its flight from the plains of Sumeria marks the rise and fall of the great mother religions of the world, and it was well on its journey, by some fifteen hundred years, when Moses found a name for the God of Israel.
none of that paragraph even remotely makes any sense.
 
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Well, let me "translate" then. Wiki says the double headed eagle has always been a symbol of Empire which makes sense when you see it displayed on so many national flags.
The Masonic dictionary takes a more poetic definition that basically says the same thing as Wiki, emphasizing the "always" portion from the (official) beginnings of civilization (Sumeria) and ancient religions having been established as a symbol of empire fully 1500 years before Moses.
Why a double-headed eagle was chosen as a symbol of empire is anybody's guess but, apparently in Masonic circles, it's a symbol that you're ready to play with the big boys. Capiche?
 
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