Did Napoleon build the Great Egyptian Pyramids?

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It sure is interesting to see timely technological injections boosting this mankind to the new heights.

Yet, I still find it very bizarre, that the Great Pyramids were first time depicted in the second half of the 18th century, considering the 4,000 year old age... by a guy who has no additional works.
 

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I think that everything which showed up on the internet is filtered and, if a site owner put on his/her site sensible technological knowledge, he/she will start having a lot of troubles, untill the information is removed or the site closed. When an ideea like "free energy" have to be discredited, lots of fake devices showed up on the biggest sites. So either you have money for the experiments or remain just with food for thought if you know to make connections.
 
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I think that everything which showed up on the internet is filtered and, if a site owner put on his/her site sensible technological knowledge, he/she will start having a lot of troubles, untill the information is removed or the site closed. When an ideea like "free energy" have to be discredited, lots of fake devices showed up on the biggest sites. So either you have money for the experiments or remain just with food for thought if you know to make connections.
It appears that when books started getting digitized, along came some unexpected information. Obviously it is arguable if the info was released on purpose or not. At the same time I doubt that every single library book could have gotten reviewed prior to scanning. Here is a possible example: Jedi Knights of the 17th century
 

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It is no need to be reviewed before as you cach them at their first experiments anyway! Just try to play with a big cloudbuster or make some powerfull scalar waves and you will see... but you have to remove the information because, in time, a critical mass can be formed and your movies, sports and pornography will became useless.

I knew that book and many others... I would like to read, for example, the Louis Boutard's papers!
 

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Agreed, but Memphis does not have an additional set of Great Pyramids.

Here is the plan by Norden with the fourth pyramid on there. This is getting confusing.


After some searching, this 4th pyramid has been a mystery for a while. Just google for the fourth pyramid of Egypt.

Yes, good find and makes you wonder what Napoleon's REAL mission was all about not that long after this fellow's observations.
 

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LOL, you got that right! Expert's "have deduced" Oh for f**k's sake.

Thanks for the good laugh to start my day PrincepAugus
 

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Yet, I still find it very bizarre, that the Great Pyramids were first time depicted in the second half of the 18th century, considering the 4,000 year old age... by a guy who has no additional works.
Korben, you've presented some excellent information and food for thought, and I'd like to add to the conversation.

After many years of study, my personal opinion is also that Napoleon's expedition was indeed an effort to sanitize and render useless what was left over in Egypt but I am afraid I need to interject some contradictory evidence about the lack of accurate pyramid depictions prior to that expedition.

There is a book called "Sandys Travels" written by a George Sandys in the early 1600's. There were several published versions from 1615 onwards and they contain the following prints:

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The larger map clearly shows the Gizeh pyramids along the Nile, while the third shows a fairly accurate depiction of the complex itself including structures with accurate dimensions and not the elongated Ethiopian Meroe-style pyramids in other prints.

As I said, this book was published in several versions, including this later scan.

Sandys Travels: containing an history of the original and present state of the Turkish empire ... the Mahometan religion and ceremonies. A description of Constantinople ... also, of Greece ... Of Ægypt ... A description of the Holy-Land ... Lastly, Italy described, and the islands adjoining. Illustrated with fifty graven maps and figures : Sandys, George, 1578-1644 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Please take these for what they are, just an attempt to get to the truth of things and not an attack on your overall hypothesis.

I'd also like to add something which may have been overlooked in some of your original posts. You show a 1570's Cairo print by Hogenburg which I studied extensively and translated several years ago. I have an original of that print in my collection.

The title says "Cairus Quae Olim Babylon; Aegypti Maxima Urbis" which literally translates to "Cairo, which was once BABYLON, The Greatest City Of Egypt".

I am not sure if you are aware, but there is still a tourist attraction in Cairo, a fortress in the Coptic district known as Babylon Fortress.

Babylon Fortress - Wikipedia

You make a point that the pyramids were not mentioned in the bible, but what if they were? The original words used for Tower of Babel literally translate to "Tall building which is the gate to God (ba-bel)" and not necessarily a tower. "Ba-bel-on" would be the gate to god in "On", or "Heliopolis", the city of the sun, which later became modern Cairo.

My personal opinion has always been that the great pyramid was a kind of machine meant to allow a person to illuminate, or become a "Twice Born". In several Egyptian texts it is called the "Womb of Rebirth" in which a candidate underwent a ceremony which allowed them to transcend themselves, reaching out to commune face to face with what we would term God.

That would certainly qualify and correlate to the biblical story of mankind reaching out for the gods, only to be knocked back for overreaching. It may even give motive for later calamitous events...

As for Cairo, the name is literally the monogram of Christ, the "X-P" (Chi-Rho - Cairo). As to why a city containing a bio-cosmic resonator capable of allowing humans to attain heightened states took on the name of Christ... that is a can of worms for another time. ;-)

Thank you all for the wonderful research and lively conversations.
 
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Thank you for the great post, and a great book find, though I do find the way its print year shown a bit strange. Latin numerals vs. Arabic ones, as far as 17th century book printing goes, I have not looked into yet.

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I think I moved away from the Napoleon building the pyramids. At the moment I think he was in the front line of our civilization re-discovering Africa.
That said, I still do not think that the pyramids are thousands of years old. A few hundreds of years at the most. Probably the vicinity of the 15th century.

As far as Cairo vs. Babylon goes, we have talked about it a bit on here:
 

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I think I moved away from the Napoleon building the pyramids. At the moment I think he was in the front line of our civilization re-discovering Africa.
Reached the same conclusion. See Nuclear Pyramid . com.

I think we are looking at the world wide remains of some kind of energy production system. Consisted of pyramids and towers probably. Maybe one for production and the other for distribution.
 

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Reached the same conclusion. See Nuclear Pyramid . com.

I think we are looking at the world wide remains of some kind of energy production system. Consisted of pyramids and towers probably. Maybe one for production and the other for distribution.
I've been thinking that for quite awhile now, the Great Pyramid at Giza was the main power generator and when it went off-line, for whatever reason, it took the entire planet off-line. Same with all the towers, spires etc all over the world, all part of a world wide power grid.

I really respect the work of Christopher Dunn Giza Power plant , not trying to derail just weighing in on I don't think Napoleon build the great pyramids.
 

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I've been thinking that for quite awhile now, the Great Pyramid at Giza was the main power generator and when it went off-line, for whatever reason, it took the entire planet off-line. Same with all the towers, spires etc all over the world, all part of a world wide power grid.

I really respect the work of Christopher Dunn Giza Power plant , not trying to derail just weighing in on I don't think Napoleon build the great pyramids.
Why would it be the main one? There are literally thousands of similar buildings all over the world.

I picture it more like a system with enourmous redundancy and resilience, i.e. thousands of local systems with an interconnected outward flow, i.e. similar to the network we have today.
 
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Why would it be the main one? There are literally thousands of similar buildings all over the world.

I picture it more like a system with enourmous redundancy and resilience, i.e. thousands of local systems with an interconnected outward flow, i.e. similar to the network we have today.
Due to the high precision placement of The Great Pyramid, it's located at the center of the Earth's land masses. So for me it's makes some sense that since it's so huge and a power plant, and centrally located, it could very well be the main power generator. But your idea makes sense to me too.
The Great Pyramid of Giza
On the Location & Size of the Great Pyramid of Giza
 

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Just ran across this one in my news feed.
This seemed like an appropriate thread to post it to.



Pretty interesting theories. It would be great to see those patent documents, if someone could dig those up.

I think the pyramids actually are quite ancient - just listen to the metrics he lists about how long it would take simply to quarry that much stone. Then there's the initial design, planning, logistics, training, building the infrastructure, and the inevitable dealing with the multitude of Murphy's Law incidents that plague even the smallest projects in the best of environments.

I find the amount of secrecy imposed on exploring the pyramid interiors and the Giza plateau to be highly suspicious.
There truly needs to be some completely unauthorized robot / drone / ground-penetrating radar / other scanning in order to map out the area a get some photographs of the interior of the hidden passageways and chambers.

A swarm of semi-autonomous insectoid drones that explore the physical accessibility tree to full recursion and transmit the data back to a central command post. :)
 

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I'm curious as to why a military leader would "invade" a country with 150 scientists, engineers, and scholars. "On July 1, 1798, Napoleon landed in Egypt with 400 ships and 54,000 men and proceeded to invade the country, as he had recently invaded Italy. But this Egyptian invasion was to be different. For, in addition to soldiers and sailors, Napoleon brought along 150 savants — scientists, engineers and scholars whose responsibility was to capture, not Egyptian soil, but Egyptian culture and history. And while the military invasion was an ultimate failure, the scholarly one was successful beyond anyone’s expectations."

What was he really doing there?
 

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I find that it'd be hard to argue the pyramids were built any other way and/or time if we don't have any experimental archaeology done with it. As I keep seeing mainstream YT videos of either mainstream history or people trying to move and shape rocks the conventional way. We should have people with alternative thinking also do such projects but with public success and not obscure or eve outright frauds an alternative way.
 

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Someone here recently posted some earlier maps showing pyramids in Egypt before Napoleon's time. Sorry, I don't remember who.
 

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