Corsets as high technology

humanoidlord

Well-known member
Messages
648
Reactions
606
reminds me of the work of another quite gifted russian researcher: pro_vladimir
he has made a very good point that fancy suits worn in events by soldiers weren't just fancy but incredible advanced devices riddled with cables and mini-atmos elec powerstations
 

KorbenDallas

Negotiator
Messages
3,208
Reactions
10,688
1880s

electric_corset_0.jpg

Cornelius Bennett Harness said every married man should buy an electric corset for his wife. He designed the garment which he said would help women with a weak back, chills and rheumatism.

electric_corset.jpgelectric_corset_1.jpg
Advertisements for Dr. Scott’s electric corset promised that it would stimulate blood circulation because of electrical wires that were sewn right into the corset. The suggestion seems to have been that a woman could wear a corset tight enough to cut off her blood circulation, but maintain circulation electrically. She could escape health hazards risked by meeting a beauty ideal.

electric_corset_5.jpgelectric_corset_6.jpgelectric_corset_3.jpgelectric_corset_4.jpg
Vintage X-rays reveal the hidden effects of corsets

x-ray_corset.png
 

whitewave

Well-known member
Messages
954
Reactions
2,804
I have worn a corset once-not an electric one (didn't even know those existed) and not a silk one but it was intensely uncomfortable-not at all made for women who have to do manual labor (as most of us do these days). It may be fine for women who are just brood mares and whose sole function is to crank out streams of kids but it severely restricts mobility.

In the 50'-60's women wore girdles which was always good for a laugh watching a woman trying to squeeze into them. Like watching a St. Bernard trying to get in the cats' door.

By the 70's women were tossing out their bras (no actual bras were burned-they're expensive!) and discarding girdles altogether. Not all advertising can be considered based on actual facts so I don't really know about the alleged health benefits of corsets. I've read that they deform the rib cage (as depicted in the above pictures), crowding the internal organs and causing their own set of problems.

Forgive my feminist take on the matter but women's clothing, even today, is designed to please men by flattering the female form. It's not designed for practicality or for comfort. Pointy-toed shoes are a perfect example. I've taken care of women who wore those stupid shoes their entire lives and wound up with deformed feet impeding their ability to walk and requiring surgical correction. High heels is another one. They cause women to stick out their butts and breasts and to walk in a helpless rhythm which, for some reason, is appealing to guys.

There have been actual scientific studies showing the "perfect proportion" of a woman's waist to hip ratio (which most normal women don't have) and it corresponds to those women who wear corsets and/or have their floating ribs surgically removed to attain that ratio. As a woman, I'm going to have to call "propaganda" on this one. At least as a full-time garment as not as a temporary corrective-which is the only way I can see corsets being of any value.
 

KorbenDallas

Negotiator
Messages
3,208
Reactions
10,688
One thing that I do understand is that some of those inventions of the past we do not fully comprehend today. This one could be one of those. It was originally “invented” like 400 years ago. Around the same time those automatins were around. May be we recreated everything backwards.
 

Username

Member
Messages
11
Reactions
29
There is a large spectrum of corseting, from what is essentially simple fabric binding to steel boning and everything in between. There are cases where the support can be beneficial but these are short-lived examples such as injury support and postpartum support for diastasis recti. I could see it as a good idea for developing proper posture, but past that I'm not sure how useful it would be. Muscular development that properly supports the body is vital, and very difficult to achieve while corseting. I'm reminded of the tribe whose women wear the rings around their necks, or the multiple studies finding that bra use actually weakens the supportive tissues of the breasts, with the exception of high-impact exercise.

While pregnancy support may be helpful for round ligament pain, etc. Antenatal corseting is a terrible idea, the compression of organs limiting blood flow to both mother and baby (which is why back-sleeping during pregnancy is discouraged) and limiting space for the lungs to expand, which is already enough of an issue during pregnancy.

Postpartum binding and wraps are a different story, aiding in lymphatic drainage and helping the abdominals heal back together more quickly. It's generally a pretty good idea, but still not entirely necessary. Our kids were back to back and, despite being enormous due to idiopathic polyhydramnios with our second (she was measuring 4weeks ahead most of the time, 6 at one point), she healed quickly without wrapping and had no diastasis recti by 6 months PP - same as if she'd never been pregnant. But, she stayed active during and after pregnancy and we eat a balanced diet full of animal fats and proteins. Her figure is actually better now than it's ever been.

I think corseting came into vogue largely as an aesthetic choice - gotta have dat .70 hip-to-waist ratio. Pre-plastic-surgery body augmentation for the aristocratic class, as it were. Victorian use was again for aesthetics and to counter women becoming shut-ins and atrophying. Just look at the radical change in lifestyle for women from the upper to middle class. What was once the lifestyle of women of nobility and aristocracy became fairly widespread, largely revolving around social events and staying around the house with domestic servants tending to what would have traditionally been her work. I think it's largely used now to counter sedentary lifestyle, terrible nutrition, and decades of dysgenic breeding. We don't live the way we're meant to anymore, and it shows.
 

PrincepAugus

Well-known member
Messages
409
Reactions
732
I think I should just say my opinion here too lol.

Well like my above post, it's 50/50. It can help for post-birth health and maybe with electric ones, can heal such issue much quicker. But as fashion, it is unhealthy in it's tightness and general pressure on vitals organs and blood flow.

But to take away the main point of this post, the people of the past has an idea of what they were kind of used for, even if in the end it's only a fad passed down from royal fashion.
 

Verity

Well-known member
Messages
79
Reactions
386
I firmly believe corsets in times of advertising were playing on an old and very valuable idea that many still knew of; *keep the kidneys warm*.

When one is cold, a hot water bottle on the lower back will strengthen the rest of the body and the warmth will spread.
When you're cold from working outside in the garden etc. a hot shower sorts you out. You're concentrating that stream of heat on your back for a reason.
The kidneys are vital to vitality. Our grand and great-grand parents knew to maintain their warmth at all costs.

Men wore waistcoats. Women wore corsets.
The restrictions and tightening came in as survival was tempered and cowed by vanity via 'court royalty', then advertising and propaganda.
In my humble opinion.

Water and warmth/shelter are firsts for survival.
Food a very close second (look carefully under the bridge in the dark to the right).

HubertR.Cookbridge.jpeg


In a stressful situation water keeps kidneys/adrenals firing properly.
If food is crap (and good food sure would have been at a premium with the 1600's/1800's catastrophes) then the body will start to degenerate. The spine is the supporting column, yes. So support it. Done. Keep the kidneys warm, check.

But- in the old days pre-1600 catastrophe, the women wore flowing robes with a simple tie or similar. Food and warmth were givens?
A strong healthy female doesn't need that extra support. Her body will grow strong and well, a waistline should be visible even in to later age if she maintains honest, natural health and lives well in her environment.

Girls,steps.jpg

Greed, vanity, sloth- the deadly sins will show up sooner or later if she cheats. Or in the case of serious food shortages...

A modern-day corset for scoliosis or an otherwise weak back is like a band-aid on a broken leg.
It's a fundamentally internal 'rebuilding' issue that is being ignored.
I can see why the extra help is required by those in that generation in vid.'s above, and for modern girls on todays frankenfood convenience diets leading to mental issues, malnutrition and scoliosis etc., but with serious nutrition through three consecutive generations, corsets are not 'structurally necessary.'
Nature is telling us something isn't ideal.

 
Last edited:

Timeshifter

Active member
Messages
77
Reactions
208
could be another testament to the possible fact of a human body having been developed to suit a somewhat different atmospheric conditions.
This is something which Iam beginning to believe is entirely possible. Each time I hear of an athlete recovering more quickly from serious injury by being treated in a different atmospheric pressure chamber I think, mmmm!
 

asatiger1966

Well-known member
Messages
157
Reactions
678
I'm not a woman nor have I ever worn a corset so I am not the one to present this idea. All text will be lifted and credited to the gifted researcher, woman, and corset wearer cat_779. Sorry if some aspects of the text below is hard to discern it is a rough translation but the general premise I think is easy to grasp.

Why did women and girls in the recent past always wear pull-up corsets and graces? Not only to emphasize the charming female form and visually reduce the volume of the waist and hips. Corsets and graces were very useful for health: they stabilized the spine, supported the spine in a physiologically correct position with a weakened tone of the long back muscles, redistributed the load from various parts of the spine and corrected the deformities of the spinal column. Grace and corset were orthopedic, they were sewn from natural materials: high-quality cotton and silk, which let in air, and the body could breathe. The correct position of the spine is extremely important for women, especially during pregnancy and after childbirth, for this purpose there are special bandages. ( Postnatal Belt)

Image: Bing.com. Orthopedic female pulling linen made from natural materials.

The author of this article remembers that even in the 1960s in the USSR women wore grace, they cost dearly, it was an import that had to be "purchased" with overpayment. In the early 1970s it was a very difficult time, grace to buy and wear ceased, but women and girls could still buy combinations of natural or artificial silk with lace; combinations were worn until the mid-1980s, then life became crazy. The USSR was rapidly approaching its disintegration, sausage trains and a card system-women were not up to corsets and graces, which were very expensive and did not appear in free sale.
To buy prenatal and postnatal bandages was also a problem, somehow managed without them.
The payoff came quickly: the cessation of wearing orthopedic corsets became one of the most important factors in the deterioration of women's health, a sharp deterioration in the figure, especially after childbirth, spine and lumbar diseases (see Wikipedia-Orthopedic Corset article). Women "swam". Of course, the deterioration of the quality of food, water and air, too, has a major impact. The question is: if women had the opportunity to buy orthopedic corsets and graces at an affordable price and always wear them, they would do it. The intelligentsia painted us horror films about "tortious" corsets, so that not a single woman and a girl had even in mind their attempts to wear, and all because in the USSR there was a constant cotton hunger, it was necessary to dress the army, the police, other power structures, and also prisoners of prisons.

Women's health and beauty were sacrificed to maintain the repressive machine of the corporation of the USSR.Over the past 40-50 years, women have lost the culture of wearing not only pulling underwear-corsets and graces, but also beautiful underwear in general. They bought, what they sold and got, that's what they were satisfied with. Not only that, women were cut off their hair, shortened skirts, forced to work on men's jobs in man-like overalls, even in everyday life women are accustomed to trousers, because it is convenient and practical. But is it possible to live this way? Robots everywhere replace a person, take away jobs from him, introduce advanced technologies, but even with the terrible unemployment and the killed industry, it is the woman who continues to be the workhorse on which the economy, children and grandchildren are kept. Unfortunately, such a load is detrimental to the female body. Women spin like a squirrel in a wheel, not allowing themselves to stop-everything for the family, for her husband, for children and grandchildren. But when will life begin for a loved one? When, finally, women's orthopedic underwear-corsets and graces-can be bought on prescription at an affordable price, as a medicine and as a preventive measure? The best friends of girls and women should not be diamonds, but good health, harmony and straight posture. In 2000, the Sparks-Spanx corporation appeared in the US, specializing in the production and sale of women's underwear, and not at all "torture", but the huge disadvantages are the price and synthetic composition in which the body does not breathe, it is impossible to wear such clothes for long. What does it say? As a medicine and as a preventive measure? The best friends of girls and women should not be diamonds, but good health, harmony and straight posture.

What does it say?The old technologies of sewing ostropedic corsets and graces are classified, therefore they are made of synthetics, and not of high-quality natural materials-cotton and silk. In this and a snag.

If you look at the old catalogs of women's underwear, you can be surprised at its diversity and availability of purchase by mail. This indicates overproduction, but only in Western countries, and not in the USSR, where good underwear was to be purchased with overpayment. Pay attention that it was OTHER underwear, other corsets, graces, bras. The quality was much better, because the attitude towards women was fundamentally different. There was everything for women, and corporations did super profits on this. Look at old movies, until the 1970s. There's a completely different life in which full people were a rarity.
It is necessary to return classified technologies-not only fuel-free power and the Internet to the countryside, electric cars and so on. It is necessary to return to women corsets and graces, luxurious underwear made of natural materials, sewn on old technologies. This underwear was not only amazingly beautiful, it is curative, it helps to maintain female harmony, youth and beauty.

Old catalogs of corsets and graces. Image: pinterest.com Image: Montgomery Ward Pinterest.com the catalog I recommend an excellent website where you can see the wines so azhnye corsets and grace: Corsetiere


Soviet negligee. Chronicles of Moscow life.
The history of Soviet underwear is a real tragicomedy. Our women themselves made pantyhose - sewn stockings to cowards, raised loops on the nylon ...
What was hidden under the luxurious dresses of Lubov Orlova and the clothes of members of the Stalin Politburo? How did Ekaterina Furtseva organize the production of bras? Whose trousers broke the heart of Victor Erofeev? Images: Vintage lingerie. Demonstration of corsets-there are only women.





Correctly selected pull-down undergarments and corsets-maintain a straight posture and visually remove centimeters from the waist and hips.
Women and girls are changing for the better.



Did you notice that the fabrics (natural to synthetic) and technology of sewing these corsets and graces were different? In this and the whole secret ....

in B 4 muh patriarchy Reeeeeee how dare you care about my spine health!
Ok, we are being exposed to new ideas and devices that are out of place in time with our original teachings So how can we image the thinking before their deployment? Combined with early electricity , fabrics, earths atmosphere at the times mentioned, were in the dark, so to speak.

Out of the box, they were originally used for creating a magnetic field around the body for healing, moving into a higher plane of awareness, invisibility cloke, projecting an image of a different person or animal, body armor, part of exo-skeleton giving extra strength., liner for space suit.

Originally I do not believe they had anything to do with sex. I believe as we continue to devolve, sex and the flirtations with it are being programmed into society to destroy our spiritual souls, if you think in those terms. other wise sex is used to divide us. My opinion.
 

BrokenAgate

Well-known member
Messages
147
Reactions
451
I own a couple of corsets. They are not good quality ones, as they were cheap ($50-60) and are intended for steampunk costume wear. I haven't worn them often, but they are SO comfortable! They really do encourage good posture--and discourage overeating, since one's stomach is flattened. Wearing a corset makes you feel different. You move, sit, and walk differently. If a cheap costume corset can do that, imagine what a really good one would do! They start at around $300, so unless I win some money at the casinos, I probably won't be buying one.

When people think of corsets, they typically picture women with "wasp waists." Some corsets are made for this type of waist training, but most simply make you look good and feel sexy. There is a woman on YouTube who had scoliosis, and with the use of corsets was able to straighten her spine over a period of several years, without surgery. No wonder doctors never talk about them.
 

ScottFreeman

Active member
Messages
61
Reactions
208
If you're right then a few other items of clothing come to mind as well.

Just what are men's hats originally? From the crown to the top hat some may have had very different functions. We think of them as a convenient cover from the sun (which they are) but after seeing the electric prowess of our ancestors I wonder. This video made me start thinking of it again.


If a wire assembly, much like in corsets or perhaps other clothing, was arranged like an antennae with a glass bulb of mercury attached (or used somehow), as in the video, what would that do the body while worn about the head or other organs? Good? Bad? I dunno. We're told that "Mad as a hatter!" came from hat makers using mercury to shape hats but is that really what they used it for? The saying/rumor sure discouraged hat making though.

I've taken hazardous materials training and handled mercury professionally and it's concerned me how the populace today is scared silly of it. If I remember correctly it forms mercurous-oxide at around 63F and those vapors can be inhaled or absorbed. But again, it's a LONG term poison. Like 20 years of exposure unless injected or ingested. We still wore respirators with heavy metal cartridges and kept the rooms cold while decontaminating an area but it's not nearly as bad as they make it out to be.

So, mercury is apparently more of a wonder-metal than I'd known previously. It amplifies the signal/energy reception qualities of metals. Does that mean items of clothing could essentially power themselves with small amounts of energy?

If so, it might also explain the purpose of some other items of dubious comfort and utility that had wiring inside.

16869


And, those just remind me of the bottom half of this:

The Spiral of Life...Heart Electromagnetics, Part II - Haelan LifeStream Center and Retreat

I couldn't find anything with a cursory search of wire supported clothing except recreations for pre-civil war movies, maybe some of your source DBs have something.

Edit: I don't mean to say that ALL clothing like this had that purpose, only that it may have been copied from some trend-setting elites. The 1800s seem to be when things start getting released to more of the unwashed masses, then taken away again. Why they wore it? That's more my question.
 
Last edited:

BrokenAgate

Well-known member
Messages
147
Reactions
451
This talk of mercury reminds me of all the tales of rivers and lakes of mercury existing beneath certain pyramids or other structures.

Liquid mercury found under Mexican pyramid could lead to king's tomb
Flowing rivers of mercury

Nobody has considered that those large quantities of mercury may have served an electrical purpose. Might start a separate topic on that.


Anyway, back to the world of fashion, here is a short video showing how a corset is made. As you can see, it's an elaborate item of clothing with many pieces and multiple layers, and I cannot imagine making one without a sewing machine. Same thing with those ridiculously huge hoop skirts, beaded gowns, and embroidered blouses. Did people really make such intricate styles using only hand sewing? How long would it take to make just one such dress, let alone thousands or tens of thousands? Kinda hard to believe that the society that produced technological wonders in their architecture did not also invent the sewing machine.
 

ScottFreeman

Active member
Messages
61
Reactions
208
This talk of mercury reminds me of all the tales of rivers and lakes of mercury existing beneath certain pyramids or other structures.

Liquid mercury found under Mexican pyramid could lead to king's tomb
Flowing rivers of mercury

Nobody has considered that those large quantities of mercury may have served an electrical purpose. Might start a separate topic on that.


Anyway, back to the world of fashion, here is a short video showing how a corset is made. As you can see, it's an elaborate item of clothing with many pieces and multiple layers, and I cannot imagine making one without a sewing machine. Same thing with those ridiculously huge hoop skirts, beaded gowns, and embroidered blouses. Did people really make such intricate styles using only hand sewing? How long would it take to make just one such dress, let alone thousands or tens of thousands? Kinda hard to believe that the society that produced technological wonders in their architecture did not also invent the sewing machine.
I agree completely. One of the earliest machines we have evidence of is the loom no? I can't imagine that textile production, being so early on any tech tree I can think of, wouldn't benefit quickly from any increase in invention. And if that weren't enough reason I give you: "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy". Men would have been told very quickly what needs to come out of that workshop they spend so much time in first! (And, by that I mean, sewing is difficult, repetitive and boring. Nobody wants to do large amounts of it.)

Also, about the mercury, yes. And in structures where there isn't mercury there is sometimes mica or water...other highly conductive substances.
 
Last edited:

Verity

Well-known member
Messages
79
Reactions
386
If a wire assembly, much like in corsets or perhaps other clothing, was arranged like an antennae with a glass bulb of mercury attached (or used somehow), as in the video, what would that do the body while worn about the head or other organs? Good? Bad? I dunno. We're told that "Mad as a hatter!" came from hat makers using mercury to shape hats but is that really what they used it for?
Interesting ideas, esp. about the mercury in the hats. Vid. was good too. It's hard to stay on topic with so many ideas buzzing around (this is a sort of disclaimer..).
Yesterday on my FB rounds I found a meme that was almost en par with what you're suggesting.

16873

Overtly political (apologies) but that wasn't what struck me.. when one adds in the mercury vax issues and brainwash-media, and then add stuff like @pushmaku posted earlier in the Lictor/Fasces page;

I think all the ancient technology HAS to be based on "thought form amplification". Simply because ALL IS MIND. This is the main "hermetic" principle, as I understand it. There is nothing that is not "first" thought. THOTH. Modern crappy technology could be said to be "thought form manipulation and disruption". Because all "evil" can do is REVERSE and f**k stuff up..... evil is live backwards. They just aim to disrupt HEALTHY THOUGHT FORM AMPLIFICATION. Their aim is to distract us from LOVING THOUGHTS. You are right to say that the average thought form is "too weak to be causal" because yes it DOES need to be amplified.

it could be said we're among walking trans-humanoid robots. "Metal men."
Not sure how mercury and aluminium go together, I'm not metallurgist, but obviously we're not supposed to "have it on the inside."
Maybe this is the whole 'robot' meme. Nothing is promoted without reason.
Robot came from a Czech word 'robota', which meant 'forced labour.'

We could be heavy-metal (or metal-heavy) robots.
(P.s. I've detoxed it over the years, not hard to do but it does take time- well worth the eventual clarity of mind.)
 

whitewave

Well-known member
Messages
954
Reactions
2,804
Anyway, back to the world of fashion, here is a short video showing how a corset is made. As you can see, it's an elaborate item of clothing with many pieces and multiple layers, and I cannot imagine making one without a sewing machine. Same thing with those ridiculously huge hoop skirts, beaded gowns, and embroidered blouses. Did people really make such intricate styles using only hand sewing? How long would it take to make just one such dress, let alone thousands or tens of thousands? Kinda hard to believe that the society that produced technological wonders in their architecture did not also invent the sewing machine.
They didn't sew the hoops into the dresses; they made hoop frames that you slipped on and then put the skirt on over it.
16897
Even corsets can be hand sewn just leaving pockets for metal straps to be inserted. Not as difficult as tatting lace (which takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r). I don't know what those hoops were made of but it would had to have been a pliant, flexible material, else when the lady sat down the hoop would raise up exposing all. Few good point about hoop skirts: you could smuggle a tribe of pygmies under those things; you'd have built in privacy for relieving yourself on those westward-ho journeys across the plains when there were no bushes to squat to behind; if you're caught in a storm you can just weight down the outside edges, crawl inside and voilla! instant dome shelter. Plus, I guess it served as a physical barrier to keep the men at a proper distance.

As for how long it would take to make embroidered shirts and such...the Miao (spelling?) in China produce elaborate embroidered jackets that take upwards of 6 months for 1 article of clothing. Since their language and culture has been systematically wiped out, the women began to use embroidery as a method of "writing" relaying their cultural stories in pictograph form via embroidery.
16898
16899
16900


Back to corsets. Wiki says the first corsets were invented in Italy and made popular in the 1500's by Catherine de Medici. This site says corsets were around in ancient Crete days and Minoan pottery depicts both men and women wearing them. The origin of the word “corset” to describe a fitted female undergarment is murky. According to Dr. Joan Evans in her book Fashion in Underwear: From Babylon to Bikini Briefs, in medieval times, the word denoted some kind of cloak for, ironically, men. It wasn't until the turn of the 19th century that "corset" was used to describe the controversial undergarment (it was instead referred to as "stays"). Nonetheless, the earliest form of the corset wasn't even an undergarment. It first appears in the 1300s to describe a soft, fitted bodice that nipped in the waist and was worn over a linen shift. This basic form was used as a blueprint for shaping the Western female body with varying versions of the corset over the centuries, from the inflexibly stiff stays in the eighteenth century, to the shapewear that exists today.
 

ScottFreeman

Active member
Messages
61
Reactions
208
Back to corsets. Wiki says the first corsets were invented in Italy and made popular in the 1500's by Catherine de Medici. This site says corsets were around in ancient Crete days and Minoan pottery depicts both men and women wearing them. The origin of the word “corset” to describe a fitted female undergarment is murky. According to Dr. Joan Evans in her book Fashion in Underwear: From Babylon to Bikini Briefs, in medieval times, the word denoted some kind of cloak for, ironically, men. It wasn't until the turn of the 19th century that "corset" was used to describe the controversial undergarment (it was instead referred to as "stays"). Nonetheless, the earliest form of the corset wasn't even an undergarment. It first appears in the 1300s to describe a soft, fitted bodice that nipped in the waist and was worn over a linen shift. This basic form was used as a blueprint for shaping the Western female body with varying versions of the corset over the centuries, from the inflexibly stiff stays in the eighteenth century, to the shapewear that exists today.
Thanks for that. I initially was stuck in the electricity aspect, as I usually am, but your comment displayed another. What if we're just going through another aspect of a cargo cult.

Shoes: Heels, boots, lifts, stilts (taller)
Corsets: narrow the body (appear taller)
Head: Top hat, crown, headdress, hats of the clergy (taller)
Head: head boarding (allegedly for convenience?) but has the effect of lengthening the skull (taller)
Neck: stretching techniques of indigenous peoples using rigid hoops (taller)

Why always taller?

And, Catherine de Medici? That's sure one to take a tangent into. I'd just bet that there are still a lot of Medici relatives with pie stains on their fingers.
 
Last edited:

asatiger1966

Well-known member
Messages
157
Reactions
678
If you're right then a few other items of clothing come to mind as well.

Just what are men's hats originally? From the crown to the top hat some may have had very different functions. We think of them as a convenient cover from the sun (which they are) but after seeing the electric prowess of our ancestors I wonder. This video made me start thinking of it again.


If a wire assembly, much like in corsets or perhaps other clothing, was arranged like an antennae with a glass bulb of mercury attached (or used somehow), as in the video, what would that do the body while worn about the head or other organs? Good? Bad? I dunno. We're told that "Mad as a hatter!" came from hat makers using mercury to shape hats but is that really what they used it for? The saying/rumor sure discouraged hat making though.

I've taken hazardous materials training and handled mercury professionally and it's concerned me how the populace today is scared silly of it. If I remember correctly it forms mercurous-oxide at around 63F and those vapors can be inhaled or absorbed. But again, it's a LONG term poison. Like 20 years of exposure unless injected or ingested. We still wore respirators with heavy metal cartridges and kept the rooms cold while decontaminating an area but it's not nearly as bad as they make it out to be.

So, mercury is apparently more of a wonder-metal than I'd known previously. It amplifies the signal/energy reception qualities of metals. Does that mean items of clothing could essentially power themselves with small amounts of energy?

If so, it might also explain the purpose of some other items of dubious comfort and utility that had wiring inside.

View attachment 16869

And, those just remind me of the bottom half of this:

The Spiral of Life...Heart Electromagnetics, Part II - Haelan LifeStream Center and Retreat

I couldn't find anything with a cursory search of wire supported clothing except recreations for pre-civil war movies, maybe some of your source DBs have something.

Edit: I don't mean to say that ALL clothing like this had that purpose, only that it may have been copied from some trend-setting elites. The 1800s seem to be when things start getting released to more of the unwashed masses, then taken away again. Why they wore it? That's more my question.
Good research, out of the box keeps you from being boxed in. Old school quote.
 

BrokenAgate

Well-known member
Messages
147
Reactions
451
Head: Top hat, crown, headdress, hats of the clergy (taller)
And mimicking those people with elongated heads. Medieval headdresses for women were comically tall for awhile, and sometimes divided like horns. I guess getting through doorways was no problem, since many of those were tall, as well. Or they just ducked their heads a lot, LOL!

Wiki says the first corsets were invented in Italy and made popular in the 1500's by Catherine de Medici.
I'm always suspicious when a certain thing is attributed to one particular person. Like, were the Italians really the first to think of shaping women's bodies in this manner? Was Catherine of Medici really the first to popularize them? Well, I suppose someone had to, might as well be her.
 

Similar threads


Top