Area 51 a.k.a. Totonteac: the Seventh City of Cibola?

KorbenDallas

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The hypothesis pertaining to the notorious and secretive Area 51 will have nothing to do with aliens, or UFOs. On the other hand it will have everything to do with the previous spin of our civilization, old maps and legendary cities of the past.

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This is not something we will ever be able to verify, but I figured a different Area 51 related hypothesis would not hurt. At first let us get some basic info on Area 51.

Area 51
The United States Air Force facility commonly known as Area 51 is a highly classified remote detachment of Edwards Air Force Base, within the Nevada Test and Training Range. According to the CIA, the correct names for the facility are Homey Airport and Groom Lake, though the name Area 51 was used in a CIA document from the Vietnam War. The facility has also been referred to as Dreamland and Paradise Ranch, among other nicknames. USAF public relations has referred to the facility as "an operating location near Groom Dry Lake".
  • General Info:
    • Coordinates - 37°14′06″N : 115°48′40″W
    • The base's current primary purpose is publicly unknown.
    • The intense secrecy surrounding the base has made it the frequent subject of conspiracy theories and a central component to the UFO folklore.
    • Although the base has never been declared a secret base, all research and occurrences in Area 51 are Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information.
    • On 25 June 2013, following a Freedom of Information Act request filed in 2005, the CIA publicly acknowledged the existence of the base for the first time, declassifying documents detailing the history and purpose of Area 51.
  • History:
      • Lead and silver were discovered in the southern part of the Groom Range in 1864.
      • The English Groome Lead Mines Limited company financed the Conception Mines in the 1870s, giving the district its name.
      • The interests in Groom were acquired by J. B. Osborne and partners and patented in 1876, and his son acquired the interests in the 1890s. Claims were incorporated as two 1916 companies with mining continuing until 1918 and resuming after World War II until the early 1950s.
      • The airfield on the Groom Lake site began service in 1942 as Indian Springs Air Force Auxiliary Field, and consisted of two unpaved 5000-foot runways.
      • The Groom Lake test facility was established in April 1955 by the CIA for Project AQUATONE, the development of the Lockheed U-2 strategic reconnaissance aircraft.
Historical Maps
It is important to understand that the North American continent went through some serious geological transformations. Our today's pseudo-scientists branded older maps as a sick fantasy of the poorly uneducated cartographers of the past. We are to believe that such esteemed scholars like Mercator (1512-1594), and Ortelius (1527-1598) were dumb and stupid enough to depict something they knew was not there.

Around 1650s the North American Continent suffered the same fate the rest of the world did. To reference what I'm talking about use these links:
Anyways, the North American Continent went through the following major stages. The below compilation is an approximate transformation progression. For more details please visit this link. There could have been an additional stage, but that one is much harder to work with.

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Sometime around 1650s, an event of great magnitude took place. This event drastically changed the outline of the Pacific North West area of the North America. Whether the area was entirely, or partially flooded, but the outline of the Continent did change. Some of the known coastal areas vanished with no trace.

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The Seven Cities of Cibola
The Seven Cities of Gold, also known as the Seven Cities of Cibola, is a myth that was popular in the 16th century. It is also featured in several works of popular culture. According to legend, the seven cities of gold could be found throughout the pueblos of the New Mexico Territory. The cities were Hawikuh, Halona, Matsaki, Quivira, Kiakima, Cibola, and Kwakina. While there have always been mentions of a seventh city, no evidence of a site has been found.
  • In the 16th century, the Spaniards in New Spain (now Mexico) began to hear rumors of "Seven Cities of Gold" called "Cíbola" located across the desert, hundreds of miles to the north. The stories may have their root in an earlier Portuguese legend about seven cities founded on the island of Antillia by a Catholic expedition in the 8th century, or one based on the capture of Mérida, Spain by the Moors in 1150.
  • The later Spanish tales were largely caused by reports given by the four shipwrecked survivors of the failed Narváez expedition, which included Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca and a black moorish slave named Esteban Dorantes, or Estevanico. Eventually returning to New Spain, the adventurers said they had heard stories from natives about cities with great and limitless riches. However, when conquistador Francisco Vázquez de Coronado finally arrived at Cíbola in 1540, he discovered that the stories were unfounded and that there were, in fact, no treasures as the friar had described - only adobe towns.
  • While among the towns, Coronado heard an additional rumor from a native he called "the Turk" that there was a city with plenty of gold called Quivira located on the other side of the great plains. However, when at last he reached this place (variously conjectured to be in modern Kansas, Nebraska or Missouri), he found little more than straw-thatched villages.
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In 1539, Friar Marcos de Niza, a Franciscan priest, reported to Spanish colonial officials in Mexico City that he’d seen the legendary city of Cibola in what is now New Mexico. It was an electrifying statement - Spanish explorers who were scouring the New World for Native American treasure had heard persistent tales of the fantastic wealth of the so-called Seven Cities of Cibola.
  • “It is situated on a level stretch on the brow of a roundish hill,” the friar said. “It appears to be a very beautiful city, the best that I have seen in these parts.” The priest acknowledged, however, that he had only seen the city from a distance and had not entered it because he thought the Zuni Indian inhabitants would kill him if he approached.
  • But when a large and expensive Spanish expedition returned to the area in 1541, they found only a modest adobe pueblo that wasn’t anything resembling what the priest described. The expedition turned out to be a ruinous misadventure for those involved - including famed conquistador Francisco Vazquez de Coronado, who led it.
  • “Virtually everyone, including the leader, returned to Mexico City heavily in debt,” says New Mexico author Richard Flint, who, with his wife, Shirley Cushing Flint, has written five books about Coronado. “A number of those people never recovered financially.”
  • For five centuries, scholars have debated what de Niza saw when he claimed he’d found Cibola - or whether he simply told Spanish officials what they wanted to hear.
  • The Seven Cities of Cibola
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KD: I have an issue with the Coronado expedition narrative. His route does not match the location of the Quivira Regnum presented on the older maps. There is a pertaining thread here on SH. Due to this fact I have a fairly strong believe that either the records were altered, or the documents were outright fabricated to demonstrate that there was nothing of significance in the explored area. Coronado's expedition provided us with one additional detail which I plan on covering in the nearest future.
  • If you can find a life time depiction of Francisco Vázquez de Coronado, please share. I have my doubts about this gentleman, for there are too many historical fact which entirely depend on the literary results of his expedition.
Area 51 a.k.a. Totonteac
While there have always been mentions of a seventh city, no evidence of a site has been found. To be honest, I am not sure of what evidence of the first six cities they found. If anything, the narrative went out of their way to convince everybody that these cities never existed in the described state. Calculating the exact location of Totonteac, we should probably consider the Expanding Earth hypothesis in mind.


I think this seventh missing city was Totonteac, and it was buried/destroyed in the event of the 1650s. I also think that our Area 51 is located directly over the top of this buried city. I understand that it is much easier to attribute all the secrecy to the UFO reverse engineering, but it appears that we could have our earthly things to reverse engineer.
  • To be honest, I do not know how the count the cities, for we do appear to have seven. May be Cibola itself does not count as one.​
    • Hawikuh, Halona, Matsaki, Quivira, Kiakima, Cibola, and Kwakina.
Totonteac and Cibola
I have seen four various English language spellings of this city: Tonteac, Tototeac, Totonteac and Tontonteac. The actual city appears to have been a part of the Totonteac Regnum. Well, let us see what the older books have to offer in reference to our Totonteac and the Seven Cities of Cibola.

In 1714, approximately 75 years after the area cities got destroyed, the following was published. Interesting that a lake was mentioned. Could it be our Groom Lake?

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But it's texts like the 1628 one below, which have nothing to do with our Totonteac, but have the location mentioned due to the author's associations, that make me believe that Totonteac did exist.

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Or like this 1664 text written in the language I do not know, yet the mere inclusion of Totonteac in this list gives its existence a certain credibility.

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Or like these grid coordinates mentioned in 1677.

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It sounds like our Totonteac had better constructed buildings as compared to Cibola.

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And here is what the city of Cibola was described as.

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Timing
Unfortunately we cannot be sure of what happened when exactly. As long as narrative adjusters keep on providing us with bloopers like the one below, timing will always be a hard thing to figure out:
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I am not going to copy/paste all the information available in the older books. Please help yourself using the below links. Click on the time span at the bottom of the linked pages and read for yourself.
Great article:
Obviously, the official narrative has everything verified, and no such cities ever existed in the described state. Yet:
  • And of course, California and Nevada are full of various National Parks, Military Installations and various other "off limits" areas.​
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KD: Well, I just figured I will throw this hypothesis out there:
  • Area 51 was establish to explore intellectual efforts of the previous spin of our civilization.
  • Area 51 is sitting on top of a buried city, which could possibly be Totonteac.
 

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Looks like that Latin excerpt was a listing of rivers :

", after He hath been committed for fewer long as the previous ones are conspicuous in amplitude but the number of about twenty thousand of the channel, that is to say an Indian, Zaire, Cuama of the river flows out of Lake chime, Euprates, the Don, Petzora, Pesida, Tababus of Siberia, yrtiis syberiae, the river's. In the spirit of Africa, Amana in Castile, American River Magdalena River in chic Julian, the river's James in Peru, the Rhine, the white Mesa, Borysthenes, totonteac the new Albion."
 

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Great thread KD! Again...lol! This makes a whole bunch of sense in terms of where Area 51 is and the landscape surrounding it. Furthermore I am buying that this base was off limits more because they were excavating underground then because of aliens or super secret tech. Those were 'fronts' or strawmen whilst the real purpose was what you have laid out. Or, while they were excavating they ran into "aliens" and/or ancient tech. Makes more sense to me. I really don't remember the story well enough, but didn't something from Roswell supposedly go to Area 51? Anyway, that to me, now with some of this information seems awfully cover-up-ish, or strawman like. Kind of like "make everyone think area 51 is a secret alien base (which many many people would instantly roll their eyes and never look into anymore) because if they think its a buried city of gold and antiquetech, flocks of people would constantly be bothering us". Military bases in general are considered by the populace as mostly off limits. Plop a "military base" on top of an archaeological site and voila, you keep most from even batting an eye at the issue.
 
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Looks like that Latin excerpt was a listing of rivers
Appreciate the translation. Needless to say it does not exist any longer.

Here is some additional information pertaining to the Seven Cities of Cibola general locality. The below is from this book:
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At the same time I think the above has very little to do with the original cities of Cibola.
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Wondering if we are moving into the Aztlan territory here. May be that same great cataclysm made them move south to Mexico.

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For these are some weirdly looking Aztecs.
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Yikes! Totonac Civilization, Government & Religion | Study.com

Religious Ceremonies
Every fifth day, all Totonac citizens were required to attend a blood ritual where members of the Totonac royal family would drive straws through their tongues, thighs, and ears as a means of purifying their bodies through pain and blood worship to Chichini.

The Totonac believed that the blood they shed was food for Chichini, and most of their rituals involved blood and human sacrifices.

At midnight on winter solstice, 18 Totonac would be sacrificed and have their hearts ground into the mouths of idols in the form of their deities. This ceremony was also supplication to Chichini to deliver the Totonac from the subjugation of the Aztecs.

"Some ceremonies involved Totonac royalty eating their human sacrifices to Chichini, and another where men over the age of 26 would drink the blood of baby hearts mixed with seeds and a form of rubber. This ceremony was called the yoliaimtlaqualoz also known as 'food for the soul'." Reminds me of all that conspiracy stuff about louch and dulce!

Think the totonac could be related to totonteac?
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Architecture is certainly quite interesting.
 
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Not sure if this is helpful, but there is a lot of mining activity in the area surrounding Area 51. While there's something like 1,300 mines and known mineral deposits in the state of Nevada, a lot of these are located within a 100 miles radius from Area 51. By and large, they are gold deposits, but there's all sorts of other metals and minerals, including lithium, silver, copper, molybdenum.
 

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"It will be seen in Europe beyond Eastern Greece, Muscovy, in Africa, in the region of Numidia, in the Isles of the Atlantic Ocean, and in the American boreal region beyond Totonteac. The people of Eastern Greece, Moldavia, Muscovy, all of Western Tartiaria, and the inhabitants of the Caspian Sea of the Pont-Euxin, will see the beginning of it. The sin will be seen from the countries of Anian de Quivira. We do not see her from China, Japan, the Philippines, Moluccas, Iava, Sumatra of Malacca, New Guinea, or Isles of Solomon of Larrons. "
Interesting regions and groups of people to be banding together when discussing eclipses of the moon.


"If the important facts were not so numerous, it would undoubtedly be curious to follow to the northeastern regions Franciso Vasquez Coronado and his lieutenants; it would be interesting to compare the always exaggerated relation of Fray Macro de Niza, even in the presence of objects, with the real facts as can be told simply by a soldier, sincere chronicler. One would see that everything should not be rejected in what the Indians reported from the kingdoms of Cibora, Marata d'Ahacus, Tontoeac and even of Quivira. These five- to six-storey houses, which were sometimes fortified, these clothes, which are compared to those of the Bohemians of Spain, these belts trimmed with turqoise, of which it is so frequently mentioned, these pearls which the conquerors remark with surprise at the foreheads of the Indians, and these golden ornaments which they suspend in their ears and their noses all this indicated a certain degree of industry, a civilization approached to a certain point of that which one observed in the cities far away from Mexico."
 
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Interesting comment from Bob Lazar here, listen from 6 mins to hear it straight away. He claims the 'alien' tech he was working on at area51 was found from an archaelogical dig. No aliens needed, seems like support for ancient civilisation's technology!

 

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