America Was Stolen by the Holy Roman Empire

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Others have posted information on this in various threads with the 13th amendment but I wanted to make sure all of the information had it's own thread.

See a great thread on the topic here: Which 13th Amendment?
Youtuber with a ton of legal expertise: lotus: justice for Maddly Arts

So here's how the infiltration occurred:

The Treaty of Paris September 3rd, 1783.
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"In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity. It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore, and to establish such a beneficial and satisfactory intercourse , between the two countries upon the ground of reciprocal advantages and mutual convenience as may promote and secure to both perpetual peace and harmony..."

Judicial Act of 1789

"Judicial Act of 1789, and the violations there of by the unlawful monopoly of the BAR Unions, which allow us to bring their foreign judicial forums to the bar/BAR of Equity and claims in suits in equity."

The agents of the Holy Roman Empire continued operating in America through subterfuge until...

The Titles of Nobility Amendment 11th Congress on May 1, 1810. It stripped citizenship from any citizen who accepted a title of nobility from a foreign country.
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This was the true cause of the war of 1812. The Vatican could just not let us go...

Treaty of Peace and Amity December 24, 1814
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/5730368
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The connection to make here is Britannic Majesty is a title for the Prince Elector of Great Britain through the Holy Roman Empire. They were just smart enough to not put it on too many documents going forward.

The treaty clearly states a few things:
"His Britannic Majesty and the United States of America desirous of terminating the War which has unhappily subsisted between the two Countries and of restoring upon principles of perfect reciprocity Peace, Friendship, and good Understanding between them, have for that purpose appointed their respective Plenipotentiaries, that is to say, His Britannic Majesty an his part, has appointed the Right Honourable James Lord Gambien late Admiral of the White, now Admiral of the Red Squadron Of His Majesty's Fleet, Henry Goulbern ~~Esquire, a Member of the Imperial Parliament and Under Secretary of State; and William Adams Esquire, Doctor of Civil Laws:~And the President of the United States by And with the advice and consent of the ~Senate thereof has appointed John Quincy Adams, James A Bayard, Henry Day, ~Jonathan Russell and Albert Gallatin Citizens of the United States who after a ~reciprocal communication of their ~~respective Full Powers have agreed whom the following Articles~"

Plenipotentiaries:
A person, especially a diplomat, invested with the full power of independent action on behalf of their government, typically in a foreign country.

So right there in 1812 our 13th Amendment is dead. Titles are back in business. It just takes awhile for the states to recognize this treachery.

Article II:
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"Immediately after the ratifications of this Treaty by both parties as hereinafter mentioned, orders shall be sent to the Armies, Squadrons, Officers, Subjects, and Citizens of the two Powers to cease from all hostilities: and to prevent all causes of complaint which might arise on account of the prizes which may be taken at sea after the said Ratifications of this Treaty, it is reciprocally agreed that all vessels and effects which may be taken after the space of twelve days from the said Ratifications upon all parts of the Coast of North America from the Latitude of twenty three degrees North to the Latitude of fifty degrees North, and as far Eastward in the Atlantic Ocean as the thirty sixth degree of West Longitude from the Meridian of Greenwich, shall be restored on each side:-that the time shall be thirty days in all other parts of the Atlantic Ocean North of the Equinoctial Line or Equator:-and the same time for the British and Irish Channels, for the Gulf of Mexico, and all parts of the West Indies:-forty days for the North Seas for the Baltic, and for all parts of the Mediterranean-sixty days for the Atlantic Ocean South of the Equator as far as the Latitude of the Cape of Good Hope.- ninety days for every other part of the world South of the Equator, and one hundred and twenty days for all other parts of the world without exception."

They arrange for clear transportation of all titles and properties overseas with agreement to silence complaints or rebellion about all estates being stolen.

Escheat:
the reversion of property to the state, or (in feudal law) to a lord, on the owner's dying without legal heirs.

The 13th Amendment or Titles of Nobility Act separated us from this entire system. The war of 1812 reinstated the Escheat where any person who dies without an estate or will it is filtered out of this country directly to the Vatican.

This is still happening today.


From records of the 64th Congress
http://rvbeypublications.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/treatyveronajesuits.pdf

"Senator Owen: I wish to put in the Record the Secret Treaty of Verona of November 22, 1822, showing what this ancient conflict is between the rule of the few and the rule of the many. I wish to call the attention of the Senate to this treaty because it is the threat of this treaty which was the basis of the Monroe doctrine. It throws a powerful white light upon the conflict between monarchical government and government by the people. The Holy Alliance under the influence of Metternich, the Premier of Austria, in 1822, issued this remarkable secret document:

Secret Treaty of Verona 1822

The undersigned, specially authorized to make some additions to the treaty of the Holy Alliance, after having exchanged their respective credentials, have agreed as follows:

ARTICLE 1. The high contracting powers, being convinced that the system of representative government is equally as incompatible with the monarchical principles as the maxim of the sovereignty of the people with the divine right, engage mutually, in the most solemn manner, to use all that their efforts to put an end to the system of representative governments, in whatever county it may exist in Europe, and to prevent it being introduced in those countries where it is not yet known.

ARTICLE 2. As it can not be doubted that the liberty of the press is the most powerful means used by the pretended supporters of the rights of nations to the detriment of those of princes, the high contracting parties promise reciprocally to adopt all proper measures to suppress it, not only in their own States but also in the rest of Europe.

ARTICLE 3. Convinced that the principles of religion contribute most powerfully to keep nations in the state of passive obedience which they owe to their princes, the high contracting parties declare it to be their intention to sustain in their respective States those measures which clergy may adopt, with the aim of ameliorating their own interests, intimately connected with the preservation of the authority of the princes and the contracting powers join in offering their thanks to the Pope for what he has already done for them, and solicit his constant cooperation in their views of submitting the nations.

ARTICLE 4. The situation of Spain and Portugal unite unhappily all the circumstances to which this treaty has particular reference. The contracting parties, in confiding to France the care of putting an end to them, engaged to assist her in the matter which may the least compromit (sic) them with their own people and the people of France by means of a subsidy on the part of the two empires of 20,000,000 of francs every year from the date of the signature of this treaty to the end of the war.

ARTICLE 5. In order to establish in the Peninsula in the order of things which existed before the revolution of Cadiz, and to insure the entire execution of the articles of the present treaty, the high contracting parties give to each other the reciprocal assurance that as long as their views are not fulfilled, rejecting all other ideas of utility or other measure to be taken, they will address themselves with the shortest possible delay to all the authorities existing in their States and to all their agents in foreign countries, with the view to establish connections tending toward the accomplishment of the objects proposed by this treaty.

ARTICLE 6. This treaty shall be renewed with such changes as new circumstances may give occasion for, either at a new congress or at the court of one of the contracting parties, as soon as the war with Spain shall be terminated.

ARTICLE 7. The present treaty shall be ratified and the ratifications exchanged at Paris within the space of six months."


In this context the Monroe Doctrine of 1823 makes a lot more sense. But this definitely did not end here.


26th Congress 2nd Session Volume 9 1841 - Discussion notes
THE CONGRESSIONAL GLOBE, CONTAINING SKETCHES OF THE DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS OF THE TWENTY-SIXTH CONGRESS


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Americans had to look for an outside news source to get accurate information even back then:
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The essence of the meeting was the discussion of United States debt. Over 28 million missing from just one account. Before the last president, America was paid in full and in no debt. During this presidency the treasury and the bank of the united states were both privately held institutions. They had not been made public yet. They took money from the state corporate stock companies. The remaining money for stocks to Native Americans were all embezzled away to the tune of at least 30 million dollars. It was put into “general funds” and disappeared. This crime was committed by attorneys of the BAR acting for the treasury and the bank of the United States.

Instead of making them pay.. They absolve the esquires who committed this treason and forced the payments on the American people. So we had our entire reserve stolen from us and then we were taxed to pay it back.

Prior to this it's debatable whether voting mattered but it sure as shit hasn't since this day in 1845. Notice how it says in Congress assembled? and not the Congress? This was not legitimate in any way. Going forward they are to be appointed by the State.

Other notable events from this "Congress assembled:"
Chapter 98An Act to extend the charters of the District BanksJune 17, 1844PDF, 184KB

Chapter 99An Act to enable the War Department to supply certain balances of appropriation, and for other purposesJune 17, 1844PDF, 94KB
(Hello military industrial complex)
Can you say goodbye Common Law? This statute expanded the act extending the federal admiralty jurisdiction INTO the United States. Before that admiralty law stopped at 1 mile inward. Anything within the contiguous United States was under Common Law. This was the death blow to our Constitution.


37th Congress. 1862 Second Session Chapter 98 June 7th
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/28th-congress/session-2/c28s2ch20.pdf
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Are we really surprised that the Southern states with the largest economies said, "Hey, guess what? You stole our money. Now you want us to pay you back through taxation? Oh and also all the people who committed this treason will face zero consequences? Yeah... No."

37th Congress. Second Session July 17th 1862.
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Welcome to the world of Vatican pirates and Civil Forfeiture.

37th Congress. Third Session March 3rd 1863.
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They modified Habeas Corpus thru statute, also unconstitutional.

37th Congress. Third Session March 3rd 1863.
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Act to protect Leins upon vessels. They reorganized the courts of the District of Columbia. They also created a new "supreme court." Notice how again it is not capitalized. This is a completely new and illegitimate supreme court that has eight elected officials appointed by the president compared to the old Supreme Court of the United States of America which only had four. This is the supreme court of the United States (no of America because it's dead).


So how does this all tie in?
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March 2nd, 1861 it was agreed upon that “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.”​

"The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution. It was passed by the Congress on March 2, 1861 and sent to the state legislatures for ratification. Senator William H. Seward of New York introduced the amendment in the Senate."

Yet April 12, 1861 a whole 41 days later, the Civil War had begun.

This report stated that: "The National Lawyers Guild is the foremost legal bulwark of the united Communist Party, its front organizations, and controlled unions. Since its inception it has never failed to rally to the legal defense of the Communist Party and individual members thereof, including known espionage agents. It has consistently fought against national, State, and local legislation aimed at curbing the Communist conspiracy. It has been most articulate in its attacks upon all agencies of the Government seeking to expose or prosecute the subervise activities of the Communist network, including national, State, and local investigative committees, the depart of Justice, the FBI, and the law enforcement agencies generally. Through its affiliation with the Internation Association of Democratic Lawyers, an international Communist-front organiation, the National Lawyers Guild has consituted itself an agent of a foreign principal hostile to the interest of the United States. It has gone far afield to oppose the foreign policies of the United States, in line with the current line of Soviet Union."

Records from the 90th Congress show that the 14th amendment was never ratified and had always been unconstitutional.
PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE CONGRESS FIRST SESSION Pages 1 - 7 - Text Version | FlipHTML5
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The American Civil War was the false flag operation committed by Vatican agents against the United States of America and its people to enslave its citizens. America is not alone in this. All of western civilization has been compromised by the Holy Roman Empire.
 
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Excellent read! I thought I went down the rabbit whole when researching for my 13th Amendment thread. Your thread has sent me down a multi-dimensional rabbit hole now. For what we know about the 13th Amendment, and the Holy Roman Empire's involvement, What are your thoughts on KD's thread on possible Dutch trading company involvement in the Civil War (old civil war vet said "we fought the Dutch")? I think it may help paint a bigger picture.
 
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Excellent read! I thought I went down the rabbit whole when researching for my 13th Amendment thread. Your thread has sent me down a multi-dimensional rabbit hole now. For what we know about the 13th Amendment, and the Holy Roman Empire's involvement, What are your thoughts on KD's thread on possible Dutch trading company involvement in the Civil War? I think it may help paint a bigger picture.
All of the wealth in this country was being stolen through the Delaware Corporation from what I can see. I believe every trading company we encounter is merely an extension of the Holy Roman Empire. There's other States that have opened up to massive shell companies as well so it's going to be even more difficult to root these parasites out. Seeing the mobilization records of the British East India Company in India was pretty eye opening for me and the sheer size of the army they fielded was insane. My thoughts are if you have a red, white, and blue flag then you're all brothers and sisters in slavery to the papacy. We can over analyze it and look at all these shell companies, corporations, banks, lawyers, and countries or we can see them for what they are which is merely instruments of the Vatican. All roads lead to Rome.

If you're asking do I think military contractors (Vatican agents) were involved in the American Civil War? Then yes, definitely. Wars are fought in the exact same way today. Missouri was dragged into the Civil War through false flag carpet baggers murdering their militia members despite them being the only truly "free state."

Every war fought by western countries is only a continued effort at more debt enslavement by the Vatican, the destruction of belief systems, and to destroy our own history. Let's stop participating?
 
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Fantastic stuff.

It seems like Henry Ford was dropping history truth bombs on the record, during the Chicago Tribune libel suit.
And they labeled him as ignorant.

Why Did the New York Post Call Henry Ford a Joke?

“I don’t know anything about history, and I wouldn’t give a nickel for all the history in the world,” Henry Ford told the Chicago Tribune in 1916. And indeed Ford’s rant to the Tribune in 1916 was just one of many he would make on the “history is bunk” theme

In one memorable exchange, Stevenson asked, “Do you know anything about the Revolution, Mr. Ford?”
“Yes, sir,” Ford answered.
“What revolution did you have in mind, Mr. Ford?”
“In 1812,” Ford replied to murmurs of astonishment in the crowded courtroom.
 
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Fantastic stuff.

It seems like Henry Ford was dropping history truth bombs on the record, during the Chicago Tribune libel suit.
And they labeled him as ignorant.

Why Did the New York Post Call Henry Ford a Joke?

“I don’t know anything about history, and I wouldn’t give a nickel for all the history in the world,” Henry Ford told the Chicago Tribune in 1916. And indeed Ford’s rant to the Tribune in 1916 was just one of many he would make on the “history is bunk” theme

In one memorable exchange, Stevenson asked, “Do you know anything about the Revolution, Mr. Ford?”
“Yes, sir,” Ford answered.
“What revolution did you have in mind, Mr. Ford?”
“In 1812,” Ford replied to murmurs of astonishment in the crowded courtroom.
Pretty funny how the first comment on this thread was about the Dutch trading company involvement in the Civil War due to Korben's research and the flag found in the museum.


And this account gives the story behind how they manipulated his response to make him appear mad.

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History - Michigan - a Free and Independent state

The United States exists in two forms:
The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.

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The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

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History - Michigan - a Free and Independent state

The United States exists in two forms:
The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority.

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The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law.

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American history is so wonky most people don't even know Nova Scotia was an original colony, much less recognize the difference between the United States of America and the UNITED STATES.
 

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Isn't there a difference between the Holy Roman Empire and the Catholic / Vatican "empire?" My understanding is that the Holy Roman Empire constituted the First Reich, and was a central European (atlhough did include the Vatican at some points). I am not asking to be awkward but because I find the difference a bit cloudy myself. I find the Holy Roman Empire (i.e First Reich) seems to suffer from being not totally ignored, but very much kept quiet in the mainstream historical narrative.
 
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Isn't there a difference between the Holy Roman Empire and the Catholic / Vatican "empire?" My understanding is that the Holy Roman Empire constituted the First Reich, and was a central European (atlhough did include the Vatican at some points). I am not asking to be awkward but because I find the difference a bit cloudy myself. I find the Holy Roman Empire (i.e First Reich) seems to suffer from being not totally ignored, but very much kept quiet in the mainstream historical narrative.
Yes there is a difference and I do switch between the two quite interchangeably because the Holy Roman Empire was just the vehicle in which the Vatican first started the infiltration process in the Americas through it's vassal - Great Britain.

Britannic Majesty is still the title for the official in power over the United Kingdom, nothing has changed it's still just a vassal. The Holy Roman Empire never went away in 1806 it just dissolved into the Concert of Europe. They just withdrew themselves from visibility all about the same time everything seems to go radio silent around the world, despite complete upheaval in almost every country. Definitely not suspicious at all!
 

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It doesn’t even stop there. There is information out there that Britain runs all intelligence agencies (even some mainline news has said, since the trump spy fiasco as Britain and Italy are definitely implicated)), then all goes back to Switzerland and the Vatican.
Kevin Annett and the group ITCCS.org (which is totally blocked right now it seems so I can’t give a link) is chasing down the Vatican, under common law, for organized crime perpetrating crimes against humanity and there is a huge movement, even with Catholics, to separate from the Vatican. They are going for shutting down all Catholic enterprises and taking all assets as is legal when a group is convicted of organized crime.
I believe they won a huge law suit in Canada pertains to tribal genocide (includes the crown). Don’t have time to track down all the links so put a couple of videos below that has some info one can track.
Now Kevin annett is majorly blacklisted, and you have to read and listen for yourself to see what you believe, however there is no doubt the ITCCS is going for it and determined. He is Canadian but the group is everywhere.


I changed this second video because starting around 23 minutes he starts talking about their actions against the Vatican:
 
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Yes there is a difference and I do switch between the two quite interchangeably because the Holy Roman Empire was just the vehicle in which the Vatican first started the infiltration process in the Americas through it's vassal - Great Britain.

Britannic Majesty is still the title for the official in power over the United Kingdom, nothing has changed it's still just a vassal. The Holy Roman Empire never went away in 1806 it just dissolved into the Concert of Europe. They just withdrew themselves from visibility all about the same time everything seems to go radio silent around the world, despite complete upheaval in almost every country. Definitely not suspicious at all!
Yeah I agree with that and thanks for the clarification! Its certainly noticeable that if you ask someone what the third reich is... you will always get the correct answer. Ask them what the second reich was, and you will maybe get the correct answer. Ask them what the First Reich was, and invariably you will receive a baffled face. I guess this sheds a new possible query over what exactly the Third Reich was.
 

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I once flew the Red, White, and Blue proudly on my property. I took it down a few years ago, & have not displayed it since. My grandfathers bled for the flag, yet one of my Great-Great Grandfathers bled for Cherokee Nation. I am in an identity crisis, to say the least.
My conclusions of observations the last few years of my life include that the American “civil war” did not involve slavery as the core cause, as we were schooled to believe. It goes far deeper than that.
Of course everyone alive at the time are now deceased, leaving his-story to be manipulated without rebuke.
Slavery did happen, & was very much a part of all facets of society in all areas of the world then, but it was far different than we are told.
My question is why Indegenious tribes of North America along with Chinese, Irish, and other light skinned peoples are left out of the current narrative.
There is another thread here on SH where a particular speaker is highlighted (don’t remember his name). In the video on that thread, speaker explained how every US citizen property and every penny they ever owned was decreed to the Vatican, should the national debt be defaulted on. Can’t find it on my phone, I apologize, but it’s here somewhere.
 

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Excellent post. Great research and pics. Now let's talk about fundamentals.

The United States is a private Organization. You are not a member of it. You are an enemy of it.

It was started by freemasonry.

Examine the 8 rules of capitalization in English grammar and then read the Constitution again. (especially the Preamble, notice that I capitalized it).

You are not the posterity.

The emergency powers clause gives the government unlimited power.

There is no such thing as unconstitutional. Example. No where does the Constitution allow the government to set up a bank. But they did. It doesn't allow them to set up districts either. But they did.

A district is a territory under military occupation.

It was all a con game.

Their is the Creator and natural law and then their is Legalism.

Common Law is under the King.

You volunteer to be under Legalism.
Legalism is controlled through attorneys.
An attorney in training was called devilling and they were trained by devil masters. All attorneys renounce God and serve Mammon.
An attorney is a Devil's advocate.

By accepting citizenship (subjection) one agrees to the devil.

Sherman was a freemason. Look at my icon. Robert E Lee was a freemason.

A person is a Legal entity. A devil.
All laws are written for persons. No law of the United States is written for men. Only persons.
God is no respector of persons.
A judge's oath says that they will have no respect for persons.
All corporations are persons. See 14th amendment.

The Civil War was not a false flag.
The United States was always apart of the Holy Roman Empire.

The eagle of Rome
 

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I once flew the Red, White, and Blue proudly on my property. I took it down a few years ago, & have not displayed it since. My grandfathers bled for the flag, yet one of my Great-Great Grandfathers bled for Cherokee Nation. I am in an identity crisis, to say the least.
My conclusions of observations the last few years of my life include that the American “civil war” did not involve slavery as the core cause, as we were schooled to believe. It goes far deeper than that.
Of course everyone alive at the time are now deceased, leaving his-story to be manipulated without rebuke.
Slavery did happen, & was very much a part of all facets of society in all areas of the world then, but it was far different than we are told.
My question is why Indegenious tribes of North America along with Chinese, Irish, and other light skinned peoples are left out of the current narrative.
There is another thread here on SH where a particular speaker is highlighted (don’t remember his name). In the video on that thread, speaker explained how every US citizen property and every penny they ever owned was decreed to the Vatican, should the national debt be defaulted on. Can’t find it on my phone, I apologize, but it’s here somewhere.
Yep, it's the original Escheat. Was returned after the War of 1812 and the disappearing of our 13th amendment.

Our Constitution was coup'd by European members of the BAR Union. It is now a foreign federal corporation.

This simple fact can be proven by the sheer "disappearing" of TONA. There's a reason why the Civil War was never concluded and only ended in an armistice between generals. It was never resolved and we're still at war under Martial Law.

The Civil War was not a false flag.
I should argue that it was merely a false flag of deception. Not the entire idea of it being fake.

Anyway here's more specifics on my first post:

Judicial Act of 1789 {Section 9}

28 U.S.C. § 1332 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 28. Judiciary and Judicial Procedure § 1332. Diversity of citizenship;  amount in controversy;  costs

28 U.S.C. § 1333 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 28. Judiciary and Judicial Procedure § 1333. Admiralty, maritime and prize cases

28 U.S. Code § 1602-1611. All of these are important please read through...

28 U.S. Code 1605(c) is the most important though:
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Whenever notice is delivered under subsection (b)(1), the suit to enforce a maritime lien shall thereafter proceed and shall be heard and determined according to the principles of law and rules of practice of suits in rem whenever it appears that, had the vessel been privately owned and possessed, a suit in rem might have been maintained. A decree against the foreign state may include costs of the suit and, if the decree is for a money judgment, interest as ordered by the court, except that the court may not award judgment against the foreign state in an amount greater than the value of the vessel or cargo upon which the maritime lien arose. Such value shall be determined as of the time notice is served under subsection (b)(1). Decrees shall be subject to appeal and revision as provided in other cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction. Nothing shall preclude the plaintiff in any proper case from seeking relief in personam in the same action brought to enforce a maritime lien as provided in this section.
 

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Yep, it's the original Escheat. Was returned after the War of 1812 and the disappearing of our 13th amendment.

Our Constitution was coup'd by European members of the BAR Union. It is now a foreign federal corporation.

This simple fact can be proven by the sheer "disappearing" of TONA. There's a reason why the Civil War was never concluded and only ended in an armistice between generals. It was never resolved and we're still at war under Martial Law.



I should argue that it was merely a false flag of deception. Not the entire idea of it being fake.

Anyway here's more specifics on my first post:

Judicial Act of 1789 {Section 9}

28 U.S.C. § 1332 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 28. Judiciary and Judicial Procedure § 1332. Diversity of citizenship;  amount in controversy;  costs

28 U.S.C. § 1333 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 28. Judiciary and Judicial Procedure § 1333. Admiralty, maritime and prize cases

28 U.S. Code § 1602-1611. All of these are important please read through...


28 U.S. Code 1605(c) is the most important though:
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Whenever notice is delivered under subsection (b)(1), the suit to enforce a maritime lien shall thereafter proceed and shall be heard and determined according to the principles of law and rules of practice of suits in rem whenever it appears that, had the vessel been privately owned and possessed, a suit in rem might have been maintained. A decree against the foreign state may include costs of the suit and, if the decree is for a money judgment, interest as ordered by the court, except that the court may not award judgment against the foreign state in an amount greater than the value of the vessel or cargo upon which the maritime lien arose. Such value shall be determined as of the time notice is served under subsection (b)(1). Decrees shall be subject to appeal and revision as provided in other cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction. Nothing shall preclude the plaintiff in any proper case from seeking relief in personam in the same action brought to enforce a maritime lien as provided in this section.
If I'm not mistaken the Lieber Code, General Orders 100, 1863, is still in effect.
 

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The United Kingdom is a legal person. It is a corporation.
A citizen of the United Kingdom can have its citizenship stripped away by the corporation at any time as a citizen is also a legal person and corporation. The corporation cannot and does nott force anyone to take on the role of citizen, it simply makes it appear 'normal' to do so and appear extremely difficult to the point of being life threatening not to do so.
All here on this island appears to be run by the people within City of London another legal person which 'owns' a square mile within the city called London into which the appointed monarch of the United Kingdom must walk as a commoner devoid of royal regalia and royal title.
The Unholy Trinity is City of London, The Vatican, Washington District of Columbia.
All on the balance of probabilities of course, I am no longer certain of anything.
 

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This is all great stuff and has been a rabbit hole I have parked in for many years. Its pure evil genius and it disgusts me. Birth certificate is a bond, and is traded on the stock exchange. It was a way to make up the debt accrued during the Civil War. Corporations, persons, are legal fictions, corpses, hence the capitis diminutio maxima or the way we see it, the all capital letters. The act of 1871, like mentioned before, secured it. Also, if you haven't ever seen the amateur documentary Ring of Power, tale of the Three Cities, please do. This was one of the first documentaries that opened my eyes to a larger world. Sure its poorly made and sound quality is not so good, but much of the information is relevant and interesting.
 

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There is another thread here on SH where a particular speaker is highlighted (don’t remember his name). In the video on that thread, speaker explained how every US citizen property and every penny they ever owned was decreed to the Vatican, should the national debt be defaulted on. Can’t find it on my phone, I apologize, but it’s here somewhere.
Yes- I saw it too, but can't remember. That second video I posted goes into it starting at the 23 minute mark- somewhere in there- for a quick rundown. Some people seem to be seeking remedies and it seems their group is having some success.
 

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Yes- I saw it too, but can't remember. That second video I posted goes into it starting at the 23 minute mark- somewhere in there- for a quick rundown. Some people seem to be seeking remedies and it seems their group is having some success.
There are no remedies. You are either with the system or with God. One cannot use their system to remedy their system.
 
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There are no remedies. You are either with the system or with God. One cannot use their system to remedy their system.
Can you elaborate on that? What is your view on God? I'm genuinely interested. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to derail.
 

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