1,600 y.o. ancient Egyptian socks

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These socks are the earliest knitted items in the V&A's collection. Made in 300-499 AD, they were excavated in Egypt at the end of the 19th century. They have a divided toe and are designed to be worn with sandals.

The socks are knitted in stocking stitch using three-ply wool and the single-needle technique. This type of knitting is a slow technique more like sewing. It was a forerunner of the faster method of knitting with two or more needles.

Textile historians often find it difficult to tell whether early knitted objects are made using a single needle, as here, or using more than one needle, as the finished articles are so similar in appearance.

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Taking a Closer Look at an Odd Pair of Very, Very Old Socks

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LMAO, oh gee no, they look like any average human could wear them. :eek::ROFLMAO:

I suppose the part for the other 4 toes could stretch enough to get them shoved in the sock, but.....Hmmmmmm.
 
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We have two interesting issues here with human anatomy being one of those. They sure look like no socks I’ve ever seen.

May be these weird feet could fit inside these bizarre sabatons.

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The other issue is the material. If we go along with the official narrative, and believe that these socks are indeed 1,600 years old, than we are talking about some incredibly durable material.

Eventually what did the matching foot looked like, and how old are these 1,600 y.o. socks would be my questions.
 

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This is what makes me shake my head. Why on earth wouldn't they make a sock that looks like a human foot? This split down the middle so that they can wear sandals is just simple thinking.
 

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Oh yeah there is something here! It may seem like a very silly connection, but you can pick up the same exactly style of sock at this store:
Pro Ninja Tabi Socks | Kage Ninja Gear
To be used for this style of boot:
Ninja Tabi Boots

A more relevant question is, why socks in the desert? Sand tends to get into everything.
This is what makes me shake my head. Why on earth wouldn't they make a sock that looks like a human foot? This split down the middle so that they can wear sandals is just simple thinking.
Egyptian Ninjas, anything is possible anymore in my mind.

And Yeah! you guys are both brilliant! Socks in the dessert, er um, and even worse, that inexcusable fashion faux pas of wearing socks with sandals. I was so busy trying to envision what kind of foot went in those socks I ignored the other issues.
 

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1. The socks look uncomfortable.
2. They are divided weirdly. Wouldn't the split be more to one side, to allow for the big toe in the smaller part and the rest of the foot in the larger section?
3. Did the ancient (however old that is) Egyptians actually wear socks with sandals? Ugh, talk about unfashionable. At least they're not black.
4. How did knights walk in those sabatons? I guess a narrow foot could fit in them, and maybe the points were meant to be weapons from horseback, but once he was off the horse, walking around would be difficult, if not impossible. Were they put on by an assistant after he was mounted, and removed before dismounting?
 
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I’d imagine 1,600 years should have turned this pair into dust.

How old could they possibly be?
 

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The more I look at those socks the more I move away from my original post. Whoever wore them only had two digits on their feet. Most likely they had the condition known as: Ectrodactyly.
 

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They had a trend back then. Do we have any two toed Gods out there?

Did the Ancient Egyptians Wear Socks?
4th Century Egyptian Socks

The Ostrich People of Zimbabwe Who Have Just Two Toes
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The Garuda (Half man - half Eagle) is a fairly prominent feature in Vedic/Indian and Balinese artwork.
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(Final edit) The Garuda appears to have 3 toes, and the rear facing toe common to birds.

Three toed Garuda
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Oh fascinating about the Ostrich People, perhaps the last of the ruling class of Egypt, oh wait, anybody ever hear any mention of Egyptian mummies with "deformed feet" ? Oh great, something else to look into.

"The elders of the Vadoma people claim that their remote ancestors were bird like beings who came from the stars and mixed their DNA with early earth women to produce offspring. The elders state that their ancient ancestors came from the star systems of Sirius and first established colonies on a planet within our solar system that they refer to as Liitolafisi. " I bet it's Mars, be right back..

Yep, that's what they say.
"some of the wisest people in the land, people who claim ancestry from creatures who are said to have come from the red star know as Liitolafisi, the red star whose name means the eye of the brown hyena is the star, or rather the planet that white people call Mars. "
Ostrich People | Truth Control
 

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I'm curious as to what they used as a dyeing material. That's an unusual color. I know a lot of the tanning/dyeing materials (since I tan deer hides) and I'm not familiar with this color. What plant/insect is used to make this color? And would it be found in an area that supports sheep (wool)?
 

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They had a trend back then. Do we have any two toed Gods out there?
Depends on your definition of toes.

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A cloven hoof, cleft hoof, divided hoof or split hoof is a hoof split into two toes. This is found on members of the mammalian order Artiodactyla. Examples of mammals that possess this type of hoof are cattle, deer, pigs, antelopes, gazelles, goats, and sheep. In folklore and popular culture, a cloven hoof has long been associated with the Devil.
Cloven hoof - Wikipedia

Ram deities in ancient Egypt

Banebdjedet
The ram was revered in ancient Egypt in matters of fertility and war. Early gods with long wavy ram horns include Khnum and the equivalent god in Lower Egypt, Banebdjedet, the "Ram Lord of Djedet" (Mendes), who was typically shown with four ram heads to represent the four souls (Ba) of the sun god. Banebdjedet may also be linked to the first four gods to rule over Egypt, Osiris, Geb, Shu and Ra-Atum, with large granite shrines devoted to each in the Mendes sanctuary. The Book of the Heavenly Cow describes the "Ram of Mendes" as being the Ba of Osiris, but this was not an exclusive association.
Horned deity - Wikipedia

And bonus round (because again, alligators on the brain), not ancient mythology, but mythology is not something that ever ends:

Two-Toed Tom - Alligator Monster of Florida and Alabama

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If the legends are to be believed, Two-Toed Tom is a monstrous demon-possessed "bull gator."

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The story was old even before writer and University of Alabama professor Carl Carmer heard it during the 1930s.

Deep in the swamps along the Alabama-Florida border, residents told tales of legendary battles with a monster they called “Two-Toed Tom.” Carmer was fascinated with the story and included itin his critically-acclaimed but controversial book, Stars Fell on Alabama.

When Carmer first learned of Two-Toed Tom, at some point during the 1920s, the beast was described as a “red-eyed hell-demon” in alligator form, about fourteen feet long and
greatly feared by the rural residents along the Florida line near Florala. The reptile had
been well-known in the area for more than twenty years and was accused of eating
cows and mules and even blamed for assaulting several local women. According to Carmer, the monster received its name from the unusual footprints it left behind. Supposedly he had lost all but two of the toes on his left front foot to a steel trap. Two-Toed Tom also had survived numerous shootings and at least one dynamite attack, none of which seemed to have bothered him....
Two-Toed Tom - Alligator Monster of Florida and Alabama
 

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